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07-27-2008 05:50 PM
SVAuspicious
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Originally Posted by btrayfors View Post
H O W E V E R, we really don't have enough info re: the 68-year old and his "three rescues in 36 hours" to make an informed judgment. Yes, on the surface of things and with the sketchy news reporting it appears it's a case of someone attempting something he should not. But, we really don't know much more.
Every time I read a story in the papers or the electronic equivalents that I know something about I find errors, often significant errors. Accordingly, I doubt everything I read in the media. It would seem that something odd was going out there that day-and-a-half, but I wouldn't be surprised if what was reported bears very little relationship to reality.

That said, I've seen a lot of stupidity on the water.

sail fast, dave
07-27-2008 05:34 PM
T37Chef Wanna talk stupid?

Three sailboats in the anchorage I was in last night turned on their steaming lights instead of their anchor lights???? WTF.
07-27-2008 05:18 PM
sailingdog SOUNDS GOOD TO ME...BUT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. The government bureaucrats would never approve of this.
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Reality is, there are idiots in this world. Shockingly, some even have boats!

There are not enough facts in the article for us to know what was really going on. However, I surmise the Coast Guard (or whoever provided assistance) didn't do enough after the first two times to prevent the need for the third "Rescue."

I agree that everyone should get a "Freebee" (if they survive). But, I'd like to see the Coast Guard have the power to "Attach" (ie chain the boat to the dock) if they tow a boat. The "Attachment" would be conditional, and would be released after the cause of the towing had been corrected. An example: No working Nav. lights...as soon as lights are fixed the attachment is released. If you didn't want to agree to the attachment condition, then pay the money and use Vessel-assist.

Ask any 911 operator, policeman, fireman, or paramedic if there are idiots out there that abuse emergency services. Unfortunately, they have to respond to each and every call as if lives are in danger. Boating is no different.

There is no minimum IQ requirement for breeding! There is no monetary limit on stupidity!
07-27-2008 04:16 PM
J36ZT Reality is, there are idiots in this world. Shockingly, some even have boats!

There are not enough facts in the article for us to know what was really going on. However, I surmise the Coast Guard (or whoever provided assistance) didn't do enough after the first two times to prevent the need for the third "Rescue."

I agree that everyone should get a "Freebee" (if they survive). But, I'd like to see the Coast Guard have the power to "Attach" (ie chain the boat to the dock) if they tow a boat. The "Attachment" would be conditional, and would be released after the cause of the towing had been corrected. An example: No working Nav. lights...as soon as lights are fixed the attachment is released. If you didn't want to agree to the attachment condition, then pay the money and use Vessel-assist.

Ask any 911 operator, policeman, fireman, or paramedic if there are idiots out there that abuse emergency services. Unfortunately, they have to respond to each and every call as if lives are in danger. Boating is no different.

There is no minimum IQ requirement for breeding! There is no monetary limit on stupidity!
07-27-2008 12:41 PM
sailaway21 Before the USCG became what it is today most rescuing was done by lifeboat services. Now we're harkening back to days of breeches buoys and the venerable Monomoy surf/lifeboat. Another words, if you came a cropper upon the beach, rocks, or a nearby reef we'd do all we could to rescue you. but if you succumbed to the forces of the sea out of sight of land well you were pretty much on your own. A hazardous business that going to sea. Perhaps the rise of the recreational boating industry can be seen to parallel the rise in capabilities of the USCG. The sea, she ain't changed.
07-27-2008 09:57 AM
sailingdog don't forget it also becomes a source of government revenue and a bureaucracy that will only get bigger with time.
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Originally Posted by sailaway21 View Post
Please let's not get off onto that licensing argument again. Does anyone seriously think that driver's licenses make for competent drivers? Any boating license is going to be the equivalent of a driver's license; check for pulse and vision. Haven't got vision-here's a pamphlet on driving for the blind. If there were actual standards everyone wouldn't get a driver's license now would they?

"Stupid is, as stupid does."
07-27-2008 06:24 AM
sander06 I was in six foot seas on the Potomac River a couple of years back. Very short wave lengths can cause very uncomfortable seas, and not very good sailing weather. I agree that six-foot seas should be no big deal in the open ocean, however.
07-27-2008 01:54 AM
sailaway21 Please let's not get off onto that licensing argument again. Does anyone seriously think that driver's licenses make for competent drivers? Any boating license is going to be the equivalent of a driver's license; check for pulse and vision. Haven't got vision-here's a pamphlet on driving for the blind. If there were actual standards everyone wouldn't get a driver's license now would they?

"Stupid is, as stupid does."
07-27-2008 01:43 AM
tagster
Heave-to and pull out the sail making kit

Take that sail down in the cabin, and stitch it back up. It's not that ******* hard. And if you're sailing any distance and you don't have a sail making kit on board, or atleast a full back up set of sails, then you are making a mistake. Sails tear.

Anyway, I'm somewhat against the need to take classes and the lot. I taught myself how to sail, and I think everyone should be able to do that. I just hjope this guy is humiliated enough he won't head back out, unprepared, and end up calling the coast guard for a tow again.
07-27-2008 01:19 AM
SteveCox
Mandatory boater education

Here in WA state there is a new requirement for a one-time boater education course and you must carry the card with you out on the water. Oregon and BC already require one and the province and the two states have reciprocal agreements. They are phasing it in beginning with youngsters and going up in age each year until we all have one. Although a course probably wouldn't have prevented this occurence I am thinking of the thread from the other day about the PB hitting the SB and the owner getting killed. It might not have prevented that tragedy either but at least we know that everyone out there should have a basic understanding of the rules of the road and their responsibility to other boats. I'm not big on government regulation but this one makes sense to me. I don't want anyone driving a car until they have proved their competence to do so. Why should boats be any different?
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