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|10-31-2016 05:35 AM|
Re: Endeavour 32 1980 - good or bad?
Sounds like you have a great boat there! I'm a bit biased, of course........
|10-31-2016 12:13 AM|
Re: Endeavour 32 1980 - good or bad?
I have been sailing an E32 for 11 years with a friend. I am in South West Florida and she has yet to let us down. She is a 1978 with a 2 cylinder Yanmar. I think the yanmar is a touch small for her but in our area she has performed fine. She slings a 3 bladed prop and has a bad prop walk to port. I have been rebuilding her interior for the past few years for the owner and the only real issue I have left is the ports and over head hatches. She has 3 AGM batteries for the house with a total of around 300 amp hours. and one start battery. This boat loves a port tack in wind over 15 knots. We have had her our with a reefed main and jib in 30 knots and she stood up just fine though we did dunk the rail a few times. Most likely I will be purchasing her from the owner in the next year. I have fallen in love with the boat and he knows it and wants to sell her to me. I just need to put a new Autopilot on her and its all good.
|11-09-2009 10:58 PM|
Not all of the Endeavours are well-built boats... just like not all of the Hunters are junk... Making broad generalizations is generally a bad idea...
Roger Long and his boat are very well known, and I respect Roger's opinion, and he has documented much of what he has done on Strider on his website. However, before going to survey, I'd really recommend reading and using the information in the Boat Inspection Trip Tips thread I started.
|11-09-2009 02:45 PM|
Originally Posted by windship View Post
|11-08-2009 01:56 PM|
|Yorksailor||Good little boat, mostly a coastal cruiser but a friend did the Altantic west to east in one without problems.|
|11-08-2009 11:14 AM|
Roger Long is a marine architect, Harbormaster for Cape Elizabeth, ME and a writer for Point's East Magazine. He has written extensively about his 1980 Endeavor that he has been sailing for several years on his Strider web page. He took ownership in 2005, and although she was in good condition, he did extensive refitting. Roger raves about the boat's sailing ability and sailed three round trips between Portland Maine & Canada in 2009. Although I don't know him personally, I've read a bit about his personal and professional maritime experience, and I have utmost respect for his opinion.
While I was boat shopping recently I ran across a late '70s Endeavour 32 advertised for about $10K near Hingham, MA, but she had been sitting for a while and was rather neglected.
I passed her by, considering the following which Roger had written about Strider...
|11-08-2009 10:35 AM|
Originally Posted by Jeff_H View Post
Wow Jeff! You still trashing Endeavours?
I had a lengty post goin' here but lost it, so I'll just say thet Jeff is wrong about this boat and always has been.
She is a well built seaworthy boat. I've had my '77 E32 for 15 years now and I love her. Best boat in this size for the money.
Email me and I'll lay it all out for you if you want.
|04-29-2009 02:20 PM|
'82 Endeavour 32'
When you are looking at the Endeavour 32's look for a '79 or newer. The interiors are much nicer IMO than the earlier models. The later models were modified by Bob Johnson, the improvements are reworked coach roof, SOLID teak sole and a better hanging locker. There are other little improvements but these are the most noticable. The later boats also came with a more powerful engine. Mine has the Yanmar 3GM & 22 HP. This is a great engine for this boat, any smaller and you will have a hard time in rough seas.
What to look for, leaking around the ports. My ports were leaking and I had to replace all the teak on the inside of the coach house. This was not expensive maybe about $200.00 and wasn't difficult. What was not fun was cleaning the old chalk off the ports. I ended up replacing all the 5x12's with ABI bronze ports now I need to do the 7x14's. This was easy buy expensive, but it sure looks nice. If your on a tight budget you can replace all the gaskets and lenses on your beckson ports for around $350.00. The ports are the biggest weak link on this boat, but if you look most boats from this era have plastic beckson ports.
The prop walking on the E 32 is an issue to some, I replaced the fixed 2 blade the moment I bought my boat with a Kiwi feathering prop. Mine still prop walks but seeing that I never used the fixed prop I can't say that it improved this problem or not. The issue here is the extreme angle of the prop shaft. There is nothing you can do about it. In time you will use this to your advantage (propwalk), to me its a non-issue.
All in all, I think the Endeavour 32 is the best value in a 32 foot cruiser. Its not slow, it stand up well in a blow and if it gets nasty it doesn't pound. IMO it has a nice classic look to it that will look good for a long time to come. I've done a lot of upgrades to my boat over the past 3 seasons. If you get this boat let me know and I'll help you the best I can with any issues you may run into. The one thing I suggest is get a boat with the 3GM engine or Universal 3 cyclinder, and the shoal draft, if it cost a bit more its money well spent!
|04-29-2009 02:14 PM|
|Brucerobs2||I dont own one but have spent a fair bit of time sailing on an '70 Irwin 32 in the Chesapeake-a very similar boat as others have mentioned. There is both an Irwin 32, and an Endevour 32 in our creek, and they look nearly identical. My buddy owns the Irwin and I have cruised and day sailed on it. Its a nice boat, that sails well, especially when the wind/waves pipe up to the 12-15K+ range. Nice comfortable cockpit too. We've chased each other around in our boats as well. My 1980 Cherubini Hunter 27 seems much faster in light air, but he sails away from me when it gets heavier, as you would expect. I lean over... he goes forward. Perhaps a little sail trim would be in order. He has upgraded much of the things you would expect- deck hardware, winches, some rigging, etc. Give the chainplates a good look on that boat. Not sure if its symptomatic of that boat, but he has had issues there. Keel/CG is great for around here. It has an Atomic 4, but I have no idea if thats original or not. It seems to do the trick. He bought the boat in rough shape and has restored it nicely . I like his boat, it sails well and has beautiful lines too.|
|04-29-2009 01:39 PM|
I am looking for a boat in the 30' range as a first boat as well... Have a few questions myself if you would not mind answering...
The size and make of the motor is mentioned a few times here... if the boat would need a new or remanufactured engine, gearbox shaft, seals and prop... any ideas what this would cost?
What year is your boat? I am looking at a few listings and the late '70 boats seem to be avail. around $15K-$18K... is yours a '70s boat? Anything you can recommend looking at (by a novice sailor/buyer before a surveyor is brough in)? Also it seems that these boats come with either centerboard or shoal draft... are they both reliable systems? I was told that the centerboards would need inspection more often due to corrosion problems... Someone at another forum also mentioned that they have a hard time backing out of the slip (under power) turning to port... they do not yet know why, they suspect the screw may need to be replaced with a different type. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks for any additional info you can provide.
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