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|08-03-2007 11:28 PM|
|sailingdog||Yes, the austentistic stainless steels, like 304 and 316, are non-magnetic. The less durable and more corrosion prone martenistic stainless steels are magnetic.|
|08-03-2007 02:52 PM|
|RAGTIMEDON||Really not trying to revive an old thread - just used the porthole example because I have seen it. For anything stainless - try a magnet on it before you buy! I have sailed 30 years in the midwest, never paid much attention to porthole construction until a friend replaced all his with the wrong kind of stainless. I am one of those poor folks - my portholes are plastic! But after selling quality control equipment to the metals industry for 15 years I learned a little about steel.|
|07-31-2007 02:45 PM|
|sailingdog||Umm... RagtimeDon- Any reason you're reviving a thread that is four years old??? Actually, IMHO, silicon bronze is probably a better choice for portholes than is stainless steel, and titanium is even better than that, but a bit more expensive.|
|07-31-2007 02:27 PM|
|RAGTIMEDON||In salt water 316 stainless is the only acceptable way to go. Read the fine print - I recently ran across a porthole manufacturer who used 304 stainless. With a coat of lacquer or wax, it will be OK in fresh water, but in salt, 304 stainless will rust slowly, chromed steel will rust rapidly in the second year, and aluminum will dissolve!|
|11-21-2003 01:31 PM|
As to fashion and function. One thing about the Mystic ladder is it is all 316 Stainless. That alone adds a lot to the cost. Were you to drop to chromed steel that won''t last you caould get the same look for the first year then watch it rust away. In salt water 316 is the best.
|11-17-2003 05:45 AM|
Good (not dumb) question. How to use the lifeline gate in port and still use the gate area for a ladder. The use the of ladder is a blend of convenience. At anchor, if the dingy is to be used, the transom ladder can be used--no problem. At anchor, when dingy is on the davits, transom ladder is unavailable and midships ladder is deployed--both for swimming and for others to come to the boat via dingy--visitors, taxi boats, customs, etc. At dock, the ladder is hopefully on the other side from the finger pier you have tied up to. If not, it can be removed with a couple pins and stowed at the stern rail or whereever. In our case, we have two sets of mounts, on each side of the boat, and the mounts are not fixed. They slide on the track on the rail. So at dock, it is possible to move the ladder to the opposite, unused side, and slide the mounts out of the way so you don''t trip over them on the side nearest the pier.
I consider an easily-deployed ladder a safety factor also, in case someone or something needs to be picked up in the water.
But the custom ones do get expensive!!!
|11-15-2003 04:32 AM|
Just one dumb question.
If you put the folding ladder in the middle of the gate, how do you come aboard when at the dock?
I too have the same problem with a stern ladder and davits. I am tyring to get my head around a solution.
|11-14-2003 02:19 PM|
To me, the choice seems to be between fashion and function. I vote for function. If it doesn''t do the job as well as it should, I wouldn''t care how good it might look.
|11-13-2003 09:25 PM|
If you could take a measuring tape in the water and go to a swimming pool or somewhere where you could check how high you could comfortably have the lowest step, that would be the best way to be sure.
I have a transom ladder on this boat, but I also have a portable ladder that hangs off the toerail from midships for use in choppy conditions.
I hang lanyards to clip on my BC/tank and weightbelt and goodie bags so I don''t have to climb the ladder with all that gear. Once I am on deck I pull it up after me.
Make sure you can deploy your ladder from in the water, just in case you unexpectedly find yourself in the water.
|11-13-2003 07:59 AM|
Thanks for the comments. PBLAIS, sounds like your setup is the same as mine.
I had communicated with Mystic and believe they have good quality. Also worked with Tops in QUality in Michigan, which also has a good rep.
On my boat, with height of the rail, the 70", whether from Mystic or TIQ would have stuck up quite a bit. Something like 68-70 would be preferable to get aboard, though. My existing transom ladder is 21" in the water and we have swum off it, so I am probably going to do the 64" ladder, with 24 in the water.
Somehow, TIQ seemed more responsive than Mystic to my inquiries and more interested in a custom fit. However, up front, I believe both are excellent high-quality makers, and I''ve heard nothing but good things from both. And the ladders aren''t cheap is right--700-800$ or so.
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