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08-25-2008 10:10 PM
zz4gta wind magic,
Yes, something is very wrong with it. lol big bird took out the vertical vein you can't see from the pic. I have another, but my trimmer is too lazy to pull me up the mast at the moment.
08-25-2008 07:57 PM
poopdeckpappy
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I get down right angry when I see any flag hoisted above the US Flag.
J36ZT, I know what you meant, courtesy flags, signal flags and/or burgees may be or end up higher in height, but can never flown above the Stars & Stripes on the same staff or flag halyard
08-25-2008 07:46 PM
sailingdog J36-

I hate to break it to you, but on most boats flying the US Ensign from a stern flag staff, the courtesy flag, most burgees and signal flags are going to be flying above the US flag.
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Originally Posted by J36ZT View Post
From one that has served our country for over 25-years, I'd like to say that I'm extremely happy to see the US Flag proudly displayed on any vessel. I am not offended when I see Old Glory flying after sunset or before sunrise. I'm not offended when I see Old Glory flying from a port spreader, as long as it's the only flag on the boat. I'm not even offended when Old Glory is obviously well out of proportions for the size of the vessel. However, I do get upset when I see Her so weathered and torn that only the field of blue and stars remain. And, I get down right angry when I see any flag hoisted above the US Flag.

Skipper, J/36 "Zero Tolerance"
08-25-2008 06:26 PM
J36ZT After quite a bit of research in the past, I could find no US Law or official document governing the flying of the US Flag on boats. Although there are publications out there, there really is nothing "OFFICIAL." After reading many of these publications (some contradict each other), here are the conclusions I've drawn:

1. The top, aft, and starboard are the positions of honor.
2. The US Flag, if flown from the backstay on a non-gaff rigged vessel, should be 2/3 the way up the backstay.
3. The best proportions (in most cases) for the US Flag are 1" fly for every 1-foot of boat length. There should be no other flags flown on the vessel that are larger than the US Flag.
4. The US Flag is not normally flown when under sail except where required by law.
5. The US Flag is flown from 0800hrs until sunset.

Thus, when at anchor or port, you could use your main-halyard (or halyard for your aft-most mast) to hoist a US Flag. Obviously, you would need to lower the flag before you set sails.

From one that has served our country for over 25-years, I'd like to say that I'm extremely happy to see the US Flag proudly displayed on any vessel. I am not offended when I see Old Glory flying after sunset or before sunrise. I'm not offended when I see Old Glory flying from a port spreader, as long as it's the only flag on the boat. I'm not even offended when Old Glory is obviously well out of proportions for the size of the vessel. However, I do get upset when I see Her so weathered and torn that only the field of blue and stars remain. And, I get down right angry when I see any flag hoisted above the US Flag.

Skipper, J/36 "Zero Tolerance"
08-25-2008 06:14 PM
wind_magic
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Originally Posted by zz4gta View Post
Something is wrong with your wind direction indicator.
08-25-2008 05:23 PM
zz4gta
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Originally Posted by CGMojo View Post
The concept of a "battle ensign" is a little outdated, but that one's as big as you can carry!
I like that one.
36"x60" on a 25' boat. I knew it was 'large' when I bought it, but only fly it before a race.
08-25-2008 04:56 PM
poopdeckpappy Something that everyone tends to forget when speaking flag etiquette, even on boats is, If you fly the Star & Stripes, you raise the flag at Sunrise and you must douse the flag at sunset, if you can not douse the flag at sunset, then it should not be flown, unless you can illuminate it during the dark hours, to do otherwise is disrespectful

Our flag seldom flies during the week because most times, I don't get back till after dark, during the weekend it's unfurled as soon as I hit the cockpit with my coffee and is rolled and covered ( simular to a umbrella cover ) in the evening
08-25-2008 04:56 PM
imagine2frolic UP YOU 1? that's more like up you ten....I LOVE IT!
08-25-2008 04:52 PM
astraeus
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Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
Thank you for the thoughts sailboy21.

Here is a picture of someone's boat flying their flag much higher, I don't think it looks tacky. Well, correction - yes, it looks tacky here, but that's because the flag is too big for the boat, but I don't think having the flag up higher is tacky. That's basically what I'm asking about, just not huge and obnoxious like this.



Edit - I certainly wouldn't want my own countries flag to be any bigger than the courtesy flag.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but do you recall the name of the boat pictured and where it was taken? Looks like a Hans Christian I am familiar with.

Thanks
08-25-2008 02:08 PM
imagine2frolic
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Originally Posted by wind_magic View Post
Thank you for the thoughts sailboy21.

Here is a picture of someone's boat flying their flag much higher, I don't think it looks tacky. Well, correction - yes, it looks tacky here, but that's because the flag is too big for the boat, but I don't think having the flag up higher is tacky. That's basically what I'm asking about, just not huge and obnoxious like this.



Edit - I certainly wouldn't want my own countries flag to be any bigger than the courtesy flag.

Everybody gets through life differently. I think the flag looks lovely flying proud.
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