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03-04-2004 07:40 PM
CatWingate
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

Is there a list somewhere that shows what states charge for sales/usage, property taxes and registration fees? It would go a long way to deciding what state to register a boat.....
02-16-2004 06:23 PM
hamiam
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

Hunh? If you paid a sales tax in another state equal to or great than the user fee in Washington state, then you will pay nothing to Washington state. And its WANT not WONT.
02-16-2004 06:57 AM
obiec
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

The problem for me in Oregon, is we pay higher taxes in other areas in stead of a sales tax. So we still are paying our taxes. But that dose not mater to Washington. They will still wont there user fee. And if I am not mistaken, they will wont a user fee form any out of state boat, regardless if they have paid sales tax on the boat or not.
02-14-2004 04:50 PM
Sailormon6
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

I studied state taxation over 30 years ago, and will explain it as best I remember it.

You pay a sales tax when you make a purchase of personal property and use the property in the same state. If you buy the property in one state, but sign an affidavit swearing that you will remove it from the state where you purchased it within X number of days, then you donít have to pay the sales tax. However, when you take the property into another state, and use it there for more than X number of days, you have to pay a use tax. In other words, when you buy a boat, you either have to pay a sales tax where you buy it, or a use tax where you use it. The authorities usually catch you when you register the boat, because theyíll ask you to show proof that you paid sales tax at the time of purchase. If you donít have a receipt showing that you paid sales tax, then you have to pay the use tax.

The hailing port has nothing to do with sales or use taxes. It is one factor, however, in determining the state in which you must register the boat, and some states only charge small annual registration fees, while others charge annual registration fees, and they also assess hefty annual personal property taxes on boats, motor vehicles and RVs. Generally you must register the vehicle in the state where you will use it. If you live near a state line, and there is a significant difference between the annual taxes assessed by your state and by the neighboring state, you might decide to moor your boat in the state with the lower taxes.
02-14-2004 11:01 AM
JeffC_
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

"Sails tax": I get it!
02-14-2004 07:42 AM
obiec
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

I sold my last home for $180,000. and I was paying over 3k per year in property taxes on it. If that is spoiled then I better find a box under a freeway.
02-13-2004 07:15 PM
conradconrad
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

Obiec---I agree with you 100+% Don''t like the idea of paying the taxes to Washington however you mentioned paying very high property taxes in Oregon you better never move . You are spoiled I think over all Oregon rates about half in tax rates comparing other states in this country and even the lowest are paying toooooooooo much. Of course they are all mostly temporary taxes . oh yeah!
02-13-2004 03:17 PM
obiec
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

I live in Oregon, A non sails tax state. I have a 38 foot Ingrid, and am going to be moving and using it up in Washington waters. If it is more than 90 days than I will owe a user fee of around 8.5 %. This would be a little over 5,000. For the privilege of spending money in there state, and spending money at Washington Marinas. This is a sore spot for me, I pay very high property taxes and Income taxes in Oregon instead of a sales tax. Why should I be paying them also. I will be leaving my boat mostly in Canada instead. I will keep it in Washington but only a couple months at a time.
02-11-2004 01:04 PM
mcagney
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

I am in a somewhat similiar situation. I have just purchased a boat in CT but I live in NJ. I have a vacation house in NH and plan on documenting the boat and then registering it in NH (no sales tax). I want to use the boat in CT (but will not use it in NJ waters)

I contacted CT and asked about using the boat in CT waters for more then 60 days (their limit). Here is their rule:

"Documented vessels and vessels numbered by another state,which are moored, docked or operated more than 60 days in Connecticut in any calendar year, must obtain a Connecticut certificate of decal and will display a current Connecticut validation decal (but not a Connecticut vessel number) on both sides of the bow. In addition, the owner must acquire a Connecticut Safe Boating Certificate in order to operate the vessel on Connecticut waters"

The cert of decal will cost $225 (38ft boat). Therefore it seems I can avoid paying CT sales/use tax and still legally use the boat in CT waters - am I missing something?

Mike
02-11-2004 01:04 PM
mcagney
Minimizing Taxes; Hailing Port

I am in a somewhat similiar situation. I have just purchased a boat in CT but I live in NJ. I have a vacation house in NH and plan on documenting the boat and then registering it in NH (no sales tax). I want to use the boat in CT (but will not use it in NJ waters)

I contacted CT and asked about using the boat in CT waters for more then 60 days (their limit). Here is their rule:

"Documented vessels and vessels numbered by another state,which are moored, docked or operated more than 60 days in Connecticut in any calendar year, must obtain a Connecticut certificate of decal and will display a current Connecticut validation decal (but not a Connecticut vessel number) on both sides of the bow. In addition, the owner must acquire a Connecticut Safe Boating Certificate in order to operate the vessel on Connecticut waters"

The cert of decal will cost $225 (38ft boat). Therefore it seems I can avoid paying CT sales/use tax and still legally use the boat in CT waters - am I missing something?

Mike
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