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Topic Review (Newest First)
02-19-2004 08:39 PM
ccboston
Topping lift

One thing to consider when sizing a topping lift is crew overboard recovery. In the case of smaller person trying to recover a larger person (typical husband/wife cruising pair scenario), if your crewmember is injured or tired, the best way to get him back on board may be to swing the boom out over the crewmember, attach one end of a block and tackle to the crewmember and the other to the end of the boom, and hoist away. At this point you''d be glad to have a slightly oversized toppping lift holding up the boom.
02-15-2004 05:33 AM
BigRed56
Topping lift

Ahoy dazed and confused, topping lifts are for de Marina so''s de boob don''t trip you in your drunked stuppers. Other dan dat its'' completly useless. Pirate of Pine Island
01-31-2004 01:39 PM
PBzeer
Topping lift

Garehauer does make a ridid vang for my boat, but I had already decided against that, as it seemed an unnecessary expense for a boat I''m only keeping a few more years. My main concern was getting the proper line for it, and thanks to Kokopelli''s excellent suggestion, I won''t be running it through the boom and back to the cockpit. Thanks all for the help.

Fair winds,

John
01-31-2004 11:21 AM
Jeff_H
Topping lift

I would agree with you in many cases but I believe that the boat in question is a Hunter 26 which is probably a bad choice to use a topping lift to support the boom when sailing. I also somewhat disagree with the idea of using a rigid vang to support the boom instead of a topping lift on a boat this size. In order to support a small boom on a rigid vang there needs to be a lot of upward pressure preset on the rigid vang and so you are constantly having to adjust the vang or use excessive mainsheet pressure to over come that tendancy for the boom to lift. It really makes very little sense.

Jeff
01-31-2004 10:12 AM
RichH
Topping lift

On a boat with a heavy boom and without a rigid vang, using a topping lift to balance the boom weight is quite acceptable in properly shaping the sail especially in light wind conditions. Especially if the main has tell tales positioned at the leach just add tension to the T''lift until the leech becomes unstable (loose) then loosen the T''lift until the airstream flow is correct - a good technique especialy when ''ghosting'' in light winds when the oncoming apparent air flow needs more ''twist'' at the head of the sail.
01-31-2004 03:45 AM
kokopelli9
Topping lift

You are welcome. I hope it does help. I use a vang on my boat also but I have kept the topping lift...for one thing it enables me to raise the boom way out of the way at times. This rig has made doing that a simple easy step.

Bobbi
s/v Kokopelli
01-30-2004 05:18 PM
PBzeer
Topping lift

Thanks for the link, was trying to visualize how to set it up, and your''s looks simple and efficent.

Fair winds,

John
01-30-2004 04:34 PM
kokopelli9
Topping lift

I rigged a block on my topping lift this past fall to make it easier to adjust. It has worked like a charm and is very easy to use.
There are pictures of this at http://photos.yahoo.com/koko9pelli

Hope it helps.

Bobbi
s/v Kokopelli
01-30-2004 12:47 PM
hamiam
Topping lift

I would suggest foregoing the topping lift and ordering a solid vang from the likes of garhauer marine. SUpports the boom when the sail is down; acts as a boom vang when the sail is up.
01-30-2004 10:34 AM
Bermuda
Topping lift

Whereas this forum is normally centered around high seas chatter I would like to add a caveat to the use of wire topping lifts on high seas boats with SSB radios using a backstay for an antenna. Most wire topping lifts are mechanically attached to the mast without an insullator. Bad practice.

What can and often does happen is the usually slack topping lift has a tendency to wrap itself around the backstay taking the energy path or ground to the mast where it does not belong. I have had the occasion to witness this grounding wrap phenomenon on my own boat and also the boats of others while underway. Unfortunately tightening the topping lift may interfere with the sail shape so my recommendation is to either eliminate wire altogether (rope too on a real wet and rainy day can cause the same problem) and possibly opt for a rigid vang.

My 2 pennies for today.

Capt. Bruce
http://boatskipper.com

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