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|10-16-2008 04:48 PM|
wow.. this thread sure has degenerated!
While we are bashing Anchor Latina I would just like to add that their selection guide concludes that their 16lb anchor will hold my boat in 60 knot winds.... Hmmm..... Hurricane force winds and a 16lb anchor.. I'll pass on that.
|10-16-2008 04:32 PM|
BTW, here's a screenshot of ancoralatina's "state of the art" website. As you can see, whoever designed it apparently learned webdesign by sending in boxtops from cereal boxes. The design sucks... there are text tags for missing artwork by the looks of it. On large screens it majorly fails, since the header image isn't wide enough and nothing lines up correctly. The menu on the left should have some padding or margin on the left to make it more readable, but it doesn't. The list goes on...
State of the art my butt... my six-year-old nephew could do better with a box of crayons.
|10-16-2008 03:52 PM|
SemiJ..I understood your intent and tried to provide our rationale. No offense taken whatsoever. It is a fine line we try to walk.
Ancora...rather than respond to your specious arguments which have been de-bunked already, I will just say that you are no advertising genius. You run a little company with an untested product that has no distribution and no name recognition and you don't do any advertising on any site. You hope to create some business by haunting the internet chat forums touting your products and criticizing the competition and generating some orders through your "state of the art website"...fine...good plan...you just ain't getting away with it here.
|10-16-2008 03:47 PM|
Please enlighten us
Here's a quick list of the forums I use and their commercial interest policy on advertising. All these forums allow commercial vendors to participate but NOT advertise.
Sailboatowners.com = NO
Cape Dory Forums = NO
Plastic Classic Forums = NO
Cruisers Forums = NO
Cruisers Log's = NO
SSCA Forums = NO
Boat US Forums = NO
Cruising World Forums = NO
Maine Coast Forums = NO
If you want to go play over at SA feel free!!!
|10-16-2008 12:59 PM|
To quote S D --What are you doing using a fisherman's anchor as a kellet?
Yes, I know any weight will do, but what else can one do with an 8 lb fisherman's anchor? It's too heavy for a paper weight, and I sure as heck can't use it as my primary anchor on my 22,000 lb sailboat! I tried using it for fishing, but it dragged the bobber down!
|10-16-2008 12:44 PM|
I bought the Manson Supreme 45 lb anchor. Would have considered the Rocna except for the bad manners of the owner.
|10-16-2008 12:43 PM|
BTW, as Maine Sail has pointed out, several of us own and are using next generation anchors. MS, myself, and probaby six or seven others are using Rocnas, and probably a like number are using Manson Supremes and a similar amount using Spades. To say that Sailnet users aren't interested or knowledgeable about next generation anchors is complete BS. IF anything, you're crappy attitude and BS is going to turn people off from your anchor rather than give them incentive to try it.
|10-16-2008 12:24 PM|
I understand SailNet's point. And where do you draw the line? OTOH: If answering questions In The Wrong Way can easily draw a rebuke, esp. if a representative isn't paying for the privilege, I can see how such people would simply refrain, leaving people like me to seek answers elsewhere. This is the "counter-productiveness" to which I earlier referred.
In the same vein: I don't know what questions I can ask a manufacturer's representative about their product that might result in an answer that'll get them censored or banned. Not being one who pays all that much attention to banner adverts anywhere, that would include here (sorry), I have no idea whom somebody like our erstwhile correspondent here might offend by citing comparisons I might request. So, all-in-all, I'll simply forgo the exercise. All of this is most-definitely not by way of complaint, but, merely, as I had intended in my earlier comments, an observation.
I don't know as there's an easy answer.
|10-16-2008 12:19 PM|
Here is the current list of anchors I personally own.
2 Spade's one aluminum one steel
I sold my Delta Fast set to a neighbor...
Before you paint with a broad brush about Sailneters lack of understanding of new products/anchors you might want to look into who's posting on the forum and what they actually use..! I know quite a few others here who also use newer generation anchors.
I have not used a Bruce, CQR or Danforth in years and do not plan to either..
You will not win friends, just as Craig Smith has not taking the argumentative route and slamming forum guidelines.
I know the forum I moderate has the same policy and if you do it over there on SailboatOwners.com we will treat you the same. Talk anchoring all you want but DO NOT try to sell your product. If it is as good as you claim your customers will do that for you.
I have been talkiing the merits proper anchoring technique and of both the Rocna and Manson Supreme ad nauseaum and I do it because I'd love to never be dragged onto again by folks who use poorer performing products!!
|10-16-2008 11:58 AM|
|badsanta||I us a super-max and love it.|
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