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10-21-2008 10:53 AM
Faster More winter reading:

The Dreamspeaker series of Cruising guides covering Desolation Sound, Jervis Inlet, Gulf Islands and Howe Sound. Try to get the latest updated editions.
by Anne and Laurence Yeadon-Jones.

Dreamspeaker Crusing guides
10-21-2008 10:30 AM
djodenda Welcome to the PNW!

Like jrd, I also like the Wagonner's guide. I buy one every year, as it is updated every year and has useful, timely information about marinas.

However, my favorite guides are:

Gunkholing in the South Puget Sound (includes Lake Washington ) and
Gunkholing in the San Juan Islands

They are written by Jo Bailey and Carl Nyberg, who have been sailing around these parts for many, many decades.

The books aren't updated frequently, but the stories they tell, and hints about various out-of-the way places around here make them unique, and useful.

They, and their books are a local treasure.

You should be able to pick them up in any local marine store.

Or, you can just email them, and they will send you a copy directly (It's cheaper that way, and they are likely to autograph it for you as well )

gunkholing (at) earthlink.net

Again, welcome!

David
10-21-2008 02:45 AM
nightowle
cruising guide suggestion

I think everybody's advice given here is good regarding winterizing and leaving the boat in water. I had mine in Salmon Bay by the locks until May. Now it's out in the salt at Shilshole. I have winterized the engine, and also didn't one year. So it depends on whether I intend to use it. This winter I probably won't do it and hope to use the boat (well maybe not in January and February!)

I recommend "A Cruising Guide to Puget Sound and the San Juan Islands" by Miguael Scherer. She's local to the area and has compiled some great information with pictures and charts, etc. You can get it at Captain's Nautical on 15th Ave or probably at Armchair Sailor, too. Summer months can be challenging when there's little wind, so count on using that motor! And plan for plenty of time to traverse the locks. At 25 feet you should be able to clear all the bridges, except Fremont as mentioned. But sailing the Lake is great fun too, and there are quite a few coves, etc to drop anchor for lunch.

Hope you like it here.
10-20-2008 11:56 PM
blt2ski I am guessing you are in a slip with one of the condo's along Rainer or Renton Ave that traverses the south side of the lake from Seattle to Renton? Should stay pretty calm there over all no matter the weather and wind.

Go ahead and winterize, if you come up for a sail, then unwnterize the motor, leave teh water out of the water tank etc, and you will/should be fine. Some winters it is rarely below freezing around here, others......well, not fun for this area.

As also mentioned, there are lots of places to see and sail around here. I also am recalling a YC near you, Rainer beach YC. Also to the north a bit on LW is Maydenbauer bay, and newport YC just south of I90. If you are looking for close by YC's to join etc.

LW s a fun lake to learn to sail or just plain sail on. I grew up tween Kirkland and Juanita bay sailing north of 520 as a teen. Every once in awhile, the wind would kick up, and my step dad and I would sail from Kirkland around MI and back home. Did that once with winds in the 15-25 range, what a sail back to Kirkland!

Enjoy your time here.

marty
10-20-2008 11:14 PM
fullkeel7
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post
Don't know if I could actually do the "long distance" ownership thing.. I like to check the boat twice a week at least esp in winter.

For long absences I think winterizing is a good idea, more so if the boat is stored on the hard. The warming effect of the water usually deals with the few short-lived cold snaps we get up here now and then so we don't bother to winterize to that degree. But we also tend to use the boat year round too.

Don't forget to include BC in your plans.
BC inclusion....absolutely! Thanks, Bob
10-20-2008 01:08 PM
Faster Don't know if I could actually do the "long distance" ownership thing.. I like to check the boat twice a week at least esp in winter.

For long absences I think winterizing is a good idea, more so if the boat is stored on the hard. The warming effect of the water usually deals with the few short-lived cold snaps we get up here now and then so we don't bother to winterize to that degree. But we also tend to use the boat year round too.

Don't forget to include BC in your plans.
10-20-2008 12:59 PM
fullkeel7 Hey Marty

Yeah, not being around for extended times is a concern for me. And I think I will do what can be done to winterize the engine and drain the water system. Thankfully, the boats systems are simple. I'll wait to see the circumstances to make the decision whether I should pull and store the boat on it's trailer. This boating thing is just chocked full of compromises....but I think the PNW is WELL worth everyone of 'em! Thanks...Bob
10-20-2008 01:14 AM
blt2ski You should NOT have any issues with storing your boat where you do. N-NE winds are usually during dry spells, and rarely is the wind above 20-25knots. Now out of the S-SW, you can get them into the 80's during the everyother year worst case scenerio storm around here.

You may or may not want to winterize the water system. We do get week to two weeks at a time where it might stay below 32F for the whole time, but usually mid 20's at night, just above freezing during the day. As mentioned, if you will be around, worry to not worry, If not around, do so, and you will sleep better in Fl. I have yet in 15 yrs of owning boats and RV's to winterize per say these items. But I do leave the heat on.

Not much else to add.

Enjoy the time here in the NW.

marty
10-19-2008 06:56 PM
fullkeel7
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Originally Posted by jrd22 View Post
Hi Bob, Welcome to Sailnet and the PNW.
You're going to love it here, one lifetime isn't long enough to explore everywhere.
Yes! From what I've seen, my dream of cruising the PNW is a noble one I think. Thanks for the info and welcome John. No name for the boat as yet, so just look for the little boat motoring backward with bow to the current next spring! ...Bob
10-19-2008 06:02 PM
jrd22 Hi Bob, Welcome to Sailnet and the PNW. I am not familiar with your boat, but cruising in the Puget Sound/BC area should be doable if you keep a close watch on the weather and limit your cruising to the better months (May - Sept with July and Aug. the best). I bought a bunch of charts from a couple that had been to Alaska several times and the Q. Chars. in a 30' so it can be done. We normally have either too little wind, or too much in summer so you will use the engine, but 10hp in a 25' should move you at hull speed so you'll be OK. You have to pay attention to the currents, especially if you are going through any rapids which can ordinarily only be done at slack. I would recommend Waggonners cruising guide and getting current guides for both WA and BC. Armchair Sailor in Seattle has everything, and more, that you will need. I have to disagree with Jody on the winterizing, we can get temps in the teens for a week or more at a time in Seattle/Bellevue and single digits once in a great while so I would rather be safe than sorry. We also get about 2-4 wind storms each winter with gusts 50-60, so make sure you have good stout lines and chafe protection. That is a pretty protected area you are in, we have a slip across the lake from you on the eastside. The storms usually are from the SW with the cold blasts from Canada from the N to NE. The only disadvantage to where you are located is the three hour trip to get in/out of the locks which is almost all motoring and bridges to open,( you might be low enough to scoot under all but the Fremont) but it is nice to be in fresh water to clean the bottom. Once you are in the salt it's about 60NM to the San Juans which if you use a big tidal change to your advantage can be done in one day, but there are lot's of places to spend the night if you aren't in a hurry. You might decide to look for a slip in Anacortes or Bellingham so you are only 10-12NM from the islands, slips are cheaper too.

You're going to love it here, one lifetime isn't long enough to explore everywhere.

Hope to see you out there, John
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