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01-05-2012 02:09 PM
CapnBilll I think we can all agree getting a license has never stopped an idiot before, why do we think it will now? Most other areas of life have required licenses, to get one you can just pay the tax.

The test, if there even is one, mostly covers regulations, not real world skills needed to do the task safely.

Even on a good day anyone can pay a bribe and get any license required with no qualifications, or even citizenship.

The quoted millionaire that drops a check for a megayacht and rams through the marina at full throttle, no matter how wealthy can only do this a few times, eventually the loss of his boat, the lawsuites from other boats damaged, the prison time for manslaughter, will get him off the water. taking his license wont remove him any quicker. He will pay someone to take any required classes for him anyway.

Right now there are individuals that will take the driving test and any required defensive driving classes for you for a small fee, they get enough work to live off of the income. Some take the class several times in the same day, apparently the beaurocrats at the DMV don't think anything is odd, that all of the test attendees look exactly the same every day. In a minority community near you 1/3 to 1/2 of the licensed drivers have exactly the same persons picture on it...and they are driving next to you on the freeway.

The same idiots that waked you in the miserable mile, will still wake you after this law passes, they will just have a plastic card in their wallet with someone elses picture on it that they bought on a street corner.

Still think it is a good idea, just wait...there is legislation pending right now to make AIS mandatory for everything that floats. Go too fast through a no wake, or manatee, or marine sanctuary zone, they will mail you the ticket. Cross any of these zones while possessing a fish, they will take your boat. Here in Texas boaters have had their boat seized and GPS data pulled in court to determine of they caught the right fish at the right position, posses both fish they assume you caught them at the illegal place, it is up to you to prove different.

Right now AIS is dropping in price, wait and see what the price does when you are forced by law to buy one.

If boating was so dangerous insurance co's would not insure you without proof of a boating course. Right now mine will not even give me a discount, and I am USCG licensed.

The biggest loss (over 90%) is from named storms, so do we require a license to tie up to a slip???

Boater Licensing = Boater Licensing = Boater Licensing =
01-05-2012 12:00 PM
smillinjack Well O balmo and the forty thieves will be glad to take your money and make your day miserable at the same time, but He will give you a big smile
12-24-2011 09:42 AM
LupodiMare I agree!
12-24-2011 09:37 AM
Capt.aaron As a merchant marine who spends a lot of time in a commercial wheel house, I can tell we that we stand in awe over some of the stupid **** we see self taught, un-licsenced, pleasure boater's do. Should you be required by law to have credentials? NO. Required by common sense to seek out seamanship training? ABSOLUTELY!!
12-23-2011 10:24 AM
DRFerron
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Originally Posted by LupodiMare View Post
A "Boater" is a hat. Not someone that goes to sea!
If the English language only allowed one definition per word, the Oxford English Dictionary wouldn't have so many volumes (or be so expensive).
12-23-2011 02:34 AM
LupodiMare
Boater

A "Boater" is a hat. Not someone that goes to sea!
11-07-2008 04:02 PM
painkiller Hah! OK. You can enjoy it when you get home.
11-07-2008 03:59 PM
N0NJY If there's an image there, apparently it's blocked here hahaha

guess I will have to respond later
11-07-2008 03:54 PM
painkiller Hey, N0NJY! You're not one of these guys, are you?

11-07-2008 03:51 PM
N0NJY
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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
Well there you go. My point exactly.

Cutlass, saber, foil? Or just a big freakin' medieval hunk of metal?
All of the above.

Ever heard of the Society for Creative Anachronism?

It's a "Medieval Re-Creationist Society" where the folks involved "recreate various portions of the middle ages... not the plagues and poverty, just the good parts!"

Haha. I spent twenty years of my military career traveling about, usually carrying my armor and weapons to various parts of the world to demonstrate and practice with others. Over the years we put on a lot of shows - all of course not associated with my actual JOB - but for fun, and I learned several weapon types.

My armor currently is retired to the Armor Tree in my rec room and I don't do it any more (except on occasion to show up with the youngsters that are doing it now, and kick some of their asses to show that old people can still win a fight.....)

Why?
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