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11-05-2008 11:47 AM
josrulz
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Originally Posted by midlifesailor View Post
A Catalina 36, but we upped the budget some since it was the model the Admiral really preferred.
Sounds great. The preferences of the Admiral can go a long way!
11-05-2008 09:13 AM
PalmettoSailor
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Originally Posted by josrulz View Post
Thanks for the support, midlifesailor. We had a previous deal on a different boat that also fell through for reasons on the seller's end, and that one is still on the market too. Just out of curiosity, did you end up with a Catalina 34, or a different model?

-J
A Catalina 36, but we upped the budget some since it was the model the Admiral really preferred.
11-04-2008 10:27 PM
josrulz
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Originally Posted by midlifesailor View Post
Dang, I feel like you are walking a mile in my moccassin's. About this time last year, we found a super sharp Catalina 34 with all the bells and whistles that we were very excited about, only to find the boat had a blister problem. The boat was pristine otherwise, and the surveryor felt it was a good candidate for a full peel, being above average in every other way. Unfortunately, the owner was not willing to adjust the price enough (frankly he wasn't willing to negotiate at all) to warrant us taking on the problem, so we moved on. I know two other deals on that boat feel through and don't know if it ever sold or was just taken off the market.

By the way, I was quoted about $300-350/ft for a peel and relaminate job. Here is a link to a fairly detailed explanation of that process for anyone interested.

http://www.zahnisers.com/blisters_hydrolysis.htm

At any rate, we toughed it out and found a boat we couldn't be happier with. Just hang tough and you'll find the right boat.
Thanks for the support, midlifesailor. We had a previous deal on a different boat that also fell through for reasons on the seller's end, and that one is still on the market too. Just out of curiosity, did you end up with a Catalina 34, or a different model?

-J
11-04-2008 10:23 PM
josrulz
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Originally Posted by Delirious View Post
Yeeeee. Nasty.

There's blisters, and then there's blisters. Some are merely cosmetic dimples under the gel-coat and others are rotten to the core (so to speak). I'd run screaming from a boat the surveyor recommended a full-blown peel job, but a few (50 or less) SMALL dime or nickel sized blisters on a 20 year old boat are not a deal breaker (for me, anyway). As long as the underlying hull is sound it's a half-day to "zing" them with a grinder, time to let the spots dry (non-sailing months - we have five of those up north) and then a half day to fair in with epoxy resin.

If you find blisters on a 3 or 4 year old boat - that's a bad sign.


Here's a report written by someone not trying to sell you a "peel"

Reparing & Preventing Blisters
You're right Delirious, and in this case it was BLISTERS. If it had been a dozen or two, and small, we would've been OK with possibly discussing some price adjustments. These blisters were much more numerous, and several inches in diameter. Eeek. We may be off to see another boat or two this weekend, so it's not all bad, right?
11-04-2008 05:41 PM
Delirious Yeeeee. Nasty.

There's blisters, and then there's blisters. Some are merely cosmetic dimples under the gel-coat and others are rotten to the core (so to speak). I'd run screaming from a boat the surveyor recommended a full-blown peel job, but a few (50 or less) SMALL dime or nickel sized blisters on a 20 year old boat are not a deal breaker (for me, anyway). As long as the underlying hull is sound it's a half-day to "zing" them with a grinder, time to let the spots dry (non-sailing months - we have five of those up north) and then a half day to fair in with epoxy resin.

If you find blisters on a 3 or 4 year old boat - that's a bad sign.


Here's a report written by someone not trying to sell you a "peel"

Reparing & Preventing Blisters
11-04-2008 04:53 PM
PalmettoSailor
Hang in there!

Dang, I feel like you are walking a mile in my moccassin's. About this time last year, we found a super sharp Catalina 34 with all the bells and whistles that we were very excited about, only to find the boat had a blister problem. The boat was pristine otherwise, and the surveryor felt it was a good candidate for a full peel, being above average in every other way. Unfortunately, the owner was not willing to adjust the price enough (frankly he wasn't willing to negotiate at all) to warrant us taking on the problem, so we moved on. I know two other deals on that boat feel through and don't know if it ever sold or was just taken off the market.

By the way, I was quoted about $300-350/ft for a peel and relaminate job. Here is a link to a fairly detailed explanation of that process for anyone interested.

http://www.zahnisers.com/blisters_hydrolysis.htm

At any rate, we toughed it out and found a boat we couldn't be happier with. Just hang tough and you'll find the right boat.
11-04-2008 11:44 AM
josrulz
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Originally Posted by arf145 View Post
Sorry to hear about the letdown, josrulz. Yeah, there are plenty of boats out there, but by the time of the survey, you are mentally invested. But you dodged a bullet and did what you had to do! Good job.

The two big "breath-holders" for us during our survey was after the haul and power wash, and as the surveyer tapped out and metered the deck looking for wet core. Extensive problems in either area would have been disappointing show stoppers.

Good luck in your search!
Thanks, arf145. You're right about the mental investment. In regards to holding your breath about the deck and bottom--for us, that was one of the frustrating things. The surveyor had already gone over the deck and it was in great shape!

Oh well, we feel OK about the situation today. As you said, we did what we had to do. On to the next boat!
11-04-2008 10:42 AM
arf145 Sorry to hear about the letdown, josrulz. Yeah, there are plenty of boats out there, but by the time of the survey, you are mentally invested. But you dodged a bullet and did what you had to do! Good job.

The two big "breath-holders" for us during our survey was after the haul and power wash, and as the surveyer tapped out and metered the deck looking for wet core. Extensive problems in either area would have been disappointing show stoppers.

Good luck in your search!
11-03-2008 09:17 PM
josrulz
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Originally Posted by RocketScience View Post
Maybe I missed it, but what was the make of the boat (just out of curiosity)?
You didn't miss it. I don't think I ever said, just because I figured I'd wait to see if the survey went well. I don't think there's any harm is saying it was a Pearson. I've seen others that had no bottom problems, so it's nothing against Pearson of course. We'd still consider one if another comes along.
11-03-2008 09:02 PM
RocketScience Maybe I missed it, but what was the make of the boat (just out of curiosity)?
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