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|01-04-2009 11:10 PM|
|lilsparkplug||Sorry to hear this.8 years ago , I was boarded by 4 fisherman in the same place at 3am who requested food,smokes and oil for there lamp.They were Armed to the teeth (AK47s and shotgun),I complied and assisted them with whatever they requested.I was singlehanding at the time aboard my 40 ft cutter. They returned at 9am later during that same day and dropped off 3 jerry cans full of diesel as payback.This could have been a whole different story .Mochimo is also a No No for cruisers but they still seem to anchor there.|
|11-13-2008 12:38 PM|
Originally Posted by justonemoreproject View Post
|11-13-2008 08:31 AM|
Come back again there Mark.
The "no trespass" law in Scotland takes Americans by surprise. Reasonable access is allowed just about anywhere.
PM me before you arrive next time, and you can have a sail on Loch Ness.
|11-13-2008 07:53 AM|
This is horrible. It makes me sure to carrya shotgun and revolver on board when I cruise to Mexico. I don't own guns now, I once had a 357 magnum when I lived in New Mexico because everyone else did. Having it around wasn't pleasant and I sold it when I moved to California because it seemed to increase paranoia about assaults. I think having one on a boat will be a downer. But then, being shot would be too. What a world we live in!!
|11-11-2008 07:18 PM|
Originally Posted by Rockter View Post
you can also camp wherever you want as long as you close the gate behind you.A excertional country in my book.
Thank you for the great vacation
|11-11-2008 02:39 PM|
Originally Posted by therapy23 View Post
In Hurracane season you have two choices as far as insurancce goes.North or south.Going South is a whole lot cheaper than going north.
Just remember you have no 911 to call.As you do North.Measure your chances and do what you feal is right for you.
|11-11-2008 02:27 PM|
Originally Posted by sab30 View Post
Stats on countrys with the most guns legit or not i will buy.Depending on the agenda of the people taking the polls.Have you looked at the stats in england in blade/knife ER room problems?? Basically they are the same.Just problems in gun countrys are more terminal....Kill the bad guy so he can not fight another day.
Basics so far are unknown.Two boats together that were attacked.One shotgun was used....Some bad guys killed.One good guy KIA.
Do what you feal right in self protection.Obousily 911 was a little late for them.
PS..Lights a candle for the deceased.
|11-11-2008 01:01 PM|
Self defense is not just using guns it is a state of mind
My condolences to the family of Ken Peters. I have heard that this area has lately become dangerous. There was no way that Ken was able to avoid that attack since he thought they were friendlies.
VZ has gotten more dangerous due to the extreme poverty that some suffer and the luxury goods that cruisers have on them.
Sailors shoud be wary of approaching boats of criminal intentions. If the criminals can not board then they can not steal. I have heard the use of electric fenses and the need for watches to prevent theft while anchored.
Sailors and cruisers are friendly people and used to being approached with no ill intent. However that is changing in a lot of areas so being more watchful and wary is needed.
My admiration for Steve in reacting fast enough to prevent further injuries to their wives. The use of a shotgun is the commonly used defense weapon against robbery.
However in Somalia that is insufficient and more creative methods are needed.
Sailors unlike CCW holders in the States have to deal with port regulations that severly restrict the armament that can be carried on board. Shotguns are about the only allowable weapon in the Carribean.
Most countries have severe restrictions on guns that come in by boat and since yachts have to come into port sometime the storage of guns is a problem.
But yachters do have be aware that in many situation they are the only ones capable of saving themselves and that also means from robbers, rapists and pirates.
I personally used to travel by yacht in the US up and down the eastern seaboard in the 1970s and we had shotguns for sport and skeet not for defense, onboard with no problems. But we did not carry then when we went to the Bahamas.
So think carefully about the decision to carry weapons and research the port regulations of your intinerary. Sail safely.
Carry if you want but besides robbery and piracy you have the additional problem with the local law if guns are regulated.
Again condolences to the Perry family and hope that Steve recovers quickly.
|11-10-2008 11:17 PM|
|camaraderie||Christi...thanks for coming on here in your grief and in the midst of this tragedy. I was afraid this discussion would quickly degenerate but thought sailors should know about the violence there in any case. I hope that decision has not caused you further pain. Condolences to you and your family.|
|11-10-2008 09:22 PM|
|devastated||To all, camaraderie said it right with "..but let's get further details before jumping to any conclusions." However, the post he/she re-posted from SSCA is not entirely correct, is missing key details and contains an opinion on the situation for which he has no basis. Ken Peters is my father. Four cruisers were there saturday night and four only. It's disheartening to see all sorts of assumptions, incorrect ones, being made. Please respect my parents and their very brave friends in this horrible time of tragedy and let us all grieve in peace. Post your opinions as you may, but please do not post opinions of what happened, as you were not there. My father never had a chance and it's only by a miracle and bravery that my mother, Steve and Gloria are still here with us. Only seven people know all the details, and two of them are not here to describe it. Luckily, one of those two people will not be around to hurt anyone else in the future and sadly, the second is deeply missed. I wish safe journeys to you all. If someone also has access to SSCA, please feel free to post my reply on there, as I do not have access. Also, let it be known that my mother was not a part of posting this message. This is my voice only. -Christi, loving daughter of Ken & Cathy Peters.|
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