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06-30-2009 06:38 AM
sailingdog If you're going to use a block and tackle for lifting it...get or make a webbing strap harness for the engine's head.
06-29-2009 09:23 PM
First Impression

UPS showed up right on time with my Defender order....

Well... let me say first that the Tohatsu 3.5 4 stroke is a solid engine and we're excited about it. I should also say that 41 lbs is heavier than one might expect. I'm fine with lifting it over my head but it is not something to look forward to in a fair chop while aboard the dink. Jayme is already hesitant but "thinks she can do it." We always think in worst case scenarios and "If i were the only one capable" situations. We talked about a simple block system from the boom being relatively easy if she had to. I think it will be fine but the real first test will be this weekend on the way to Cape Lookout.
06-29-2009 12:11 PM

We decided on the Tohatsu 3.5 4 stroke after all... should arrive sometime today. I will report back with my experiences with this engine once we get a chance to put it to use over the summer.

Thanks again!
06-27-2009 02:10 AM
Mipcar I've got a Mariner 3.3 2 stroke. It would be 3 yrs old now and been brilliant.
It's got a neutral, always easy to start, light to carry.

Fitted to my Walker Bay 10 I once towed my 26ft keel boat a half a mile in flat water.

06-25-2009 08:22 AM
sailingdog Joel-

four stroke engines are far more efficient, and far quieter...also, not having to mix fuel and oil for the engine makes your life a lot simpler and reduces the "consumable" you have to keep track of and inventory by one.... Finally, getting parts for the Tohatsu and service for it is usually very simple, as most Nissan and Mercury dealers will have the parts, since the small Tohatsu, Nissan and Mercury engines are all made by Tohatsu and essentially identical.
06-25-2009 07:13 AM
billangiep Joel, One downside of the 2.5 Mariner is there is no neutral, you pull and go.

(copied from an earlier post)

Having both a Nissan 3.5 two stroke and a Suzuki 2.5 four stroke it's a toss?
They both weigh with in a pound of each other, the four stroke is defiantly quieter, vibration is less than half of the two stroke but is not as fuel efficient. Another nice feature is the 2.5 has the throttle on the tiller handle.
On the other hand the 3.5 is just more ergonomically friendly moving from mother boat to dingy and back. Seems better balanced, the weight of the 2.5 is mostly in the power head. The 3.5 lower end looks to be a bit more robust.
I've used both to push my 17' daysailer the 2.5 being just .5 a knot slower than the 3.5 (GPS). At 1/2-3/4 throttle the 3.5 will run almost a 1/2 hr. longer than the 2.5 on a full tank.
06-24-2009 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
However, the 4 HP is significantly heavier than the 3.5 HP... which can be a problem if a weaker person has to carry it or move it from the boat to the dinghy or back. The 3.5 hp is 41 lbs., where the 4 hp 57 lbs., almost 50% heavier...
Thanks for the input Blue & Chef!!

Weight is a big concern too because i want my wife to be comfortable with it. The 3.5 Tohatsu at 41 pounds is at the high end of what she could handle. I'm actually considering a 1998 2.5 HP Mariner 2 cycle because it's 13 lbs lighter. the cost is $400. of course we loose 1 HP of thrust but i'm not sure it would really matter. We would not have a three year warranty either so that is certainly a trade off.

I'm trying to decide in time to get an engine by next Thursday which means ordering tomorrow or Friday at the latest. What would you do? Maybe i should just wait and see what's down the line. We could just row the inflatable for our upcoming trip but i had hoped to have a engine.

Thanks for the input everyone... we appreciate it!

06-22-2009 10:17 PM
sailingdog However, the 4 HP is significantly heavier than the 3.5 HP... which can be a problem if a weaker person has to carry it or move it from the boat to the dinghy or back. The 3.5 hp is 41 lbs., where the 4 hp 57 lbs., almost 50% heavier...
06-22-2009 08:53 PM
chef2sail Spilling the oil out is why it has to be laid on the particular side.

An update: we have had great luck and really like our Tahatsu 4 hp. It has definitely been a great addition. Has plenty of power through strong currents we experience in Long Island on our last trip. We especially love that it has both external and internal tanks. The external tank has been what we use most of the time with a 3 gallon low profile Muller tanks strapped down in the dingy. Its great when we want to take a long ride, like a few eeks ago we went about 2 hours up and back down the Stillpond Creek.

I would highly recommend it and go the extra 1/2 HP to get the external tank option.

06-22-2009 07:14 PM
blueoctober Perhaps retry a search and buy the Johnson 2 cylinder beyond reliable!!
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