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11-25-2008 03:02 PM
BlandingFarm
Catalina Saves Lives & Money

You ask anyone. Would you rather be in a Catalina or another mass production boat going around Cape Hatteras?

Also, look at the resale of any Catalina compared to other mass produced boats. Catalina's are holding value while the other are crap.
11-22-2008 08:23 PM
danielgoldberg All of the sudden it's kind of cool to be Giuish.

Quote:
Originally Posted by camaraderie View Post
OK...I'm gonna let you guys see what Giu REALLY does in his spare time. This link is to a site where everything is in Portugese....so follow MY instructions. Go to this site:
Bar da Boa

1. when the page loads and you see "seu nombre"...Type "Cam"
2. then where it says Nom Do Amigo Zoado...Type "Giu"
3. Click on "visualizar"

Even in Portuguese...YOU will be able to understand much about Giu that has never been revealed before!
11-22-2008 08:18 PM
Giulietta Agree....

By the way..contrary to what most believe here, small winches are a sign of a well calculated sheeting system, allowing smaller winches, not a bad thing.

Smaller winches save weight...a GOOD THING..
11-22-2008 08:09 PM
danielgoldberg
Hold the phone

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Originally Posted by Cruisingdad View Post
But Bene and Hunter have done EXACTLY the same thing - and worse in my opinion. THe hardware and cabinety of the new benes is poor.
I don't agree with this at all. I think the cabinetry on the new Benes actually is quite nice. We thought it was a bit more nicely finished than the Catalinas. The floor is fantastic, the joinery is plumb, and the berths are actual matresses. But frankly, if anything, Hunter probably has the nicest interior. Heresy I know, but that's my honest opinion.

On the hardware, I don't think Bene's are inferior at all. I do think the winches are smaller than the Catalina/Hunter counterparts, but that's where it ends. It's all brand named hardware, machinery, pumps and electronics. It may be Lewmar instead of Harken (depending on the boat) and things like that, but the boat's filled with Wichard, Edson, Force 10, Raymarine, Xantrex, Yanmar, and similar. Catalinas don't have any better, and I don't think you can say the hardware or equipment is inferior on the Platinumteaus. I think that's just wrong.

These things go in cycles, and I think depending on which point in time you look, one or more of the Big Three move ahead or lag behind the others. I hate to say it CD, but this is Catalina's turn to lag behind the other two. It still may lead Hunter in perception in some areas because Hunter is such a controversial brand, but having recently gone through the process of comparing these boats (among others), my clear perception and opinion is that Catalina lags the others in styling, construction and finish. I think Catalinas are perfectly fine boats, but they've been outflanked for the moment. I didn't see much in terms of innovation or advancement. It seemed as though you could have been looking at the same line 8 years ago. In short order it may be exactly the opposite when Catalina beats the other two to the punch on some new development, but that's not today.

Just my humble (but unfailingly correct) opinion.
11-22-2008 05:27 PM
camaraderie OK...I'm gonna let you guys see what Giu REALLY does in his spare time. This link is to a site where everything is in Portugese....so follow MY instructions. Go to this site:
Bar da Boa

1. when the page loads and you see "seu nombre"...Type "Cam"
2. then where it says Nom Do Amigo Zoado...Type "Giu"
3. Click on "visualizar"

Even in Portuguese...YOU will be able to understand much about Giu that has never been revealed before!
11-22-2008 04:52 PM
Giulietta
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Originally Posted by danielgoldberg View Post
Who are you kidding? You had an awesome boat and decided to sell it to become trailer trash. I don't think budget has anything to do with it.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TPT...CAM'S TPT......
11-22-2008 04:45 PM
camaraderie Hog has a built in "bubbler"!
11-22-2008 04:34 PM
sailingdog Bubb-

That looks like Hog's feed trough... Hmm...maybe it is...
11-22-2008 04:22 PM
bubb2 Cam and his new shore side hot tub!!!!
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11-22-2008 04:08 PM
sailingdog Cam-

I thought you wanted the floating hot tub they had at the Annapolis boat show...LINK
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