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12-01-2008 12:45 PM
sailingdog Me too... Besides, I don't think I could take motoring for that long a period of time and stay sane.
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Originally Posted by sander06 View Post
60 nm per day on the ICW would be enough to put me in a coma!!!
12-01-2008 12:36 PM
sander06 60 nm per day on the ICW would be enough to put me in a coma!!!
12-01-2008 10:16 AM
sailingdog Hull speed in a Pearson 28, which has a LWL of about 24.25' is 6.7 knots. Given that... travelling at 6.5 knots as your average speed is a pipe dream. Cam's figure of 4 knots is far more realistic. You'll be lucky to make 50-60 nm per day, assuming you stop for the night. Travelling the ICW at night is generally unwise, especially if cruising short-handed.
12-01-2008 10:02 AM
camaraderie
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Originally Posted by JrmMin View Post
Now to the ? Why > THIS is my route> From Lake Erie to Buffalo New York harbor, out to New York City straight into the coastal water ?? sail to Fla and then around Key west turn north into Gulf of Mexico up to Clear Water FLA. Why can,t I sail 50 miles off shore from New York turning south at 50 miles off shore instead of 200 Miles straight out of NEW YORK and I can,t use my sails eather need to motor first to the Icw point. I can come back into shore turning S/West after I reach North Carolina then I can turn South: or have I heard wrong ?? It,s seem in some threads you are not concerned: seeming that if I go 6.1/2 nots is a long way out .
Several points....
1. Your route is fine till NYC
2. Once you get to NYC...then you go down the Jersey coastline in good weather. There are three inlets there you can pull into if the weather gets bad. You do NOT belong out to sea in that boat...stay coastal. The reason that the motor is so important is that heading south the winds and currents are mostly against you. You CAN tack in and out coastally but you travel twice the distance that way AND you must pay attention to the weather windows.
3. From Cape May NJ...you can go up the Delaware Bay and then use the C&D canal to get to the Chesapeake Bay. This is what MOST people with small boats do. Alternatively you can go down the relatively desolate coastal route with only one good inlet (Ocean City) for a couple of hundred miles till the Chesapeake and the same adverse winds/currents.
4. From Norfolk you then go down the ICW...You don't even THINK about staying offshore and rounding Cape Hatteras. If you want to continue coastal sailing rather than ICW then you go our the Beaufort NC inlet and go inlet to inlet down the coast to Florida in good weather...or simply use the ICW in bad weather.

5. 6.5 kts. in a Pearson 28 is a dream. Figure 4kts. average speed under sail and you'll be lucky to hit it in terms of distance made good at sea.

Get the book...Guide to SE US Inlets by Steve Dodge if you are considering the coastal route and your choices will become much clearer.
12-01-2008 08:17 AM
waverider24 No the outboard is on the transim. The older throw hull is closed off, it was fiberglassed over about 4" thick. It is water tight and looks good. My outboard is an older one so before I make any passage I would replace it with a new one.

Maybe go from a 9.9 up to a 15 hp. I would like to have a little more power in sea's 6 to 8 feet high.

Cheers

Todd
11-10-2008 06:12 PM
Zephod00 My 1988 Drives my Grampian 26 to hull speed.
Of interest to the thread is :my Honda 9.9 charges my battery.
About 4-5 Amps. Not a lot but I single hand so lighting is usually the only demand; with running lights and one reading light the battery holds up well.
I supplement it with a small solar panel.

ZZ
11-10-2008 03:50 PM
peg You wrote
Quote:
Originally Posted by waverider24 View Post
---had the saildrive taken out and an outboard motor installed in its place.
, and it struck me:
Did you actually mean that the outboard is placed on the old diesel engine bedding (i.e. inside the boat)?
If so (heaven forbid), I would be concerned about petrol fumes and the corresponding fire hazard.

Otherwise, an outboard engine is fine, as the other contributors say.
I use a Yamaha four stroke 9,9HP on my 30' catamaran cruiser. I'm very happy with it.

Fair winds,
11-10-2008 01:01 PM
sailingdog JrmMin-

Hate to break it to you, but the average radar return of an aluminum mast is basically ZIP. If you don't have a radar reflector, you'll basically be invisible to radar... So, you really do need to have the Radar Reflector mounted... as high as you can.

You'd also be much better off starting your own thread regarding your cruise, the route and the issues you have with it...

BTW, if you've got Avionics on your boat, you've got the wrong equipment. Avionics are for AIRPLANES.
11-10-2008 12:32 PM
JrmMin
Icw and in ?

To all sailors: who want to answer!

OK> I have read all the threads on ICW posted. I sail a 28.6 1975 Pearson & in mint condition shes brand new hardly used. Sleeps(5) crew member onboard will there are 5 beds with & inboard Atomic 4 cyl engine runs like brand new. Where would I put 5 people good ?. Ok to the point! I too want to sail the ICW My boat has the state of the art of all Nav Avionics: Plus a Radar reflector, Will my mast is 38' Foot but 5' Feet of it go,s through the cabin and sits on the draft or fixed keel bolted: Why reflector will the mast is big enough to bounce a single from someone else Radar transponder but it might only be a little dot: I wanted to be seen out there on the ICW. OK enough is enough you get the Idea of my boat. Now to the ? Why > THIS is my route> From Lake Erie to Buffalo New York harbor, out to New York City straight into the coastal water ?? sail to Fla and then around Key west turn north into Gulf of Mexico up to Clear Water FLA. Why can,t I sail 50 miles off shore from New York turning south at 50 miles off shore instead of 200 Miles straight out of NEW YORK and I can,t use my sails eather need to motor first to the Icw point. I can come back into shore turning S/West after I reach North Carolina then I can turn South: or have I heard wrong ?? It,s seem in some threads you are not concerned: seeming that if I go 6.1/2 nots is a long way out .
11-10-2008 12:03 PM
JrmMin
Icw

To all sailors: who want to answer!

OK> I have read all the threads on ICW posted. I sail a 28.6 1975 Pearson & in mint condition shes brand new hardly used. Sleeps(5) crew member onboard will there are 5 beds with & inboard Atomic 4 cyl engine runs like brand new. Where would I put 5 people good ?. Ok to the point! I too want to sail the ICW My boat has the state of the art of all Nav Avionics: Plus a Radar reflector, Will my mast is 38' Foot but 5' Feet of it go,s through the cabin and sits on the draft or fixed keel bolted: Why reflector will the mast is big enough to bounce a single from someone else Radar transponder but it might only be a little dot: I wanted to be seen out there on the ICW. OK enough is enough you get the Idea of my boat. Now to the ? Why > THIS is my route> From Lake Erie to Buffalo New York harbor, out to New York City straight into the coastal water ?? sail to Fla and then around Key west turn north into Gulf of Mexico up to Clear Water FLA. Why can,t I sail 50 miles off shore from New York turning south at 50 miles off shore instead of 200 Miles straight out of NEW YORK and I can,t use my sails eather need to motor first to the Icw point. I can come back into shore turning S/West after I reach North Carolina then I can turn South: or have I heard wrong ?? It,s seem in some threads you are not concerned: seeming that if I go 6.1/2 nots is a long way out .
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