SailNet Community - Reply to Topic
Thread: Went to the boat show today... Reply to Thread
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below

  Topic Review (Newest First)
01-16-2009 01:50 AM
patrickrea I went back to the show again today. Today was purchase day without the little lady (much safer). Went back on the Delphia as well as the Bene31, C375, the Hanse 35 and 37, both the Jenneau SF3200 and the Sun Odyssey 36i and finally the Tartan 3400. I didn't get a chance to go on the IP as I was out of time.

I restate what I said earlier. The nicest boat there was the Delphia for the same reasons as above. Close runner up was the Hanse 37. Great layout, nice fittings, lots of stowage and I love the way they have hidden the electrical panel behind frosted glass in such a way that it is easily accessible but not glaring for when you are entertaining. The 35 was similar but with less stowage and with a visible electrical panel.

The SF3200 is a great boat IF you are a racer. I personally am not a big fan of a pipe berth but from a race standpoint it is a serious machine. Dual tillers, stripped to othe bone. The only solid doorway was to the head which doubles as a massive sail locker. The aft cabin was zippered canvas as is all of the storage down below.

The Tartan felt like a 1980s boat down below, too dark. The non-skid felt like teflon. Thought I was going over the rail on dry land! It was the only boat that used off the shelf electrical panels (4 seperate Blue Sea Systems panels mounted side by side), great for replacement parts but a little confused esthetically.

The C375 felt like a new RV, nice interior layout and bright but cheap materials. Same on the Bene31. Melamine laminated doors don't make sense in a humid environment if you ask me. It felt like an Ikea kitchen.

All of the boats with the exception of the Delphia used the basic Jabsco head and had cheap feeling, laminated floor boards. For CDN$250K (after currency exchange, transport, taxes etc), I would not want the cheaspest available head.

I did find some decent deals on stuff. Bought a new CDN flag, radar reflector and othe goodies like new paper charts. Bought the Cookmate 4200 stove for $250 versus over $400 for the Origo. Bought the NASA ( Speed/ Depth and Wind instruments. Found a new AP (the demo unit Raymarine X-5 from their booth ). Had fun and met some nice dealers.
01-15-2009 06:23 PM
scottbr Missed the Delphia, would've liked to gone on board. We went thru the Hunters, Bene, Jeanneaus, Catalinas and the Lagoon and started to get bleary eyed. Can't recall which one had the disgusting floor boards that were warped, as they all started to blend together. I do recall the layouts I liked and didn't like, but we're looking at boats from a cruising standpoint, not racing.

15 knots ??? I'd like to see that on my Hunter
01-15-2009 04:53 PM
blt2ski Mark,

Understand the does not fit your needs. Boats like homes, like cars etc, all have a target audience per say. This may fit my needs.....Then again, wife likes the looks of the J109 vs the 105, neither of us like the looks of some of the true cruisers, like Tayana's, catalinas,hunters etc. prefer a spartan cruiser/racer to a racer/cruiser style. Most of our trips are weekends, so we do not need plush, but do need basics. Mostly evening race etc.

C&C's would fit my bill for a boat to, as do the Bendy First series, Archumbault, Sydneys, Dehler, Dufour race series to name a few. Wife does like the Hanse's, the 35 or 37 would fit. Jeanneau has a 33 that is being outed at the Duselldorf (SP?) show that looks reasonable for our needs too. X34 or 37 also look nice, along with the 35.........A lot do not show up in the NW US/SW BC area unless sold unfortunetly.

01-15-2009 04:29 PM
DoomDahDoomDoom Yes, as I mentioned, pretty much all the other boats at the show were of the "cruiser" variety. The only exception I can think of was the J105. So it was tough to be subjective about the interior.

Definitely a hot boat; just not something I could see myself aspiring to when/if I find myself shopping in that price range.
01-15-2009 04:10 PM
blt2ski Mark,

VPP's show 14 knots at 150 in 30 knots of wind. 9.5-12 in 20 and 25 knots, Actual results can vary obviously. Not too surprised at the spartan feel, it is not designed as a cruiser! IIRC more a racer that can cruise reasonably well etc. It's more for a Chic-Mac style race design interior, with crew doing a 4 on/4 off routine.

01-15-2009 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
Can anyone give me a how the sunfast 3200 looked? I realize it is NOT a boat for sailnetters in general, but might work for my use. Not sure one is going to get here into the NW with out it being sold first.
It was my first boat show, so I was pretty impressed with all the shiny new sailboats on display. The Sunfast looked "fast". Really sleak and I loved the dual tiller setup. Compared to all the other cruisy boats on display, the cabin was decidedly more spartan. It felt smaller than my Niagara 26.

The sales guy claimed she would go 15 knots in 22-25 knots of breeze downwind without breaking a sweat. So for your $250,000 it sounds like you can pretty much fly.

If I ever spend that kind of money on a boat I think I'd be getting into one of those really nice Hanse's or a C&C.

Anyway, it was a fun break from the cold weather... other than the NASA instruments ($315 for a dual speed/depth!!!) I didn't see any good deals on equipment. Got a couple quotes on a new racing genoa and the only money I spent was on the wildly over-priced food.

"Panache", QCYC (Toronto)
01-15-2009 11:12 AM
blt2ski Patrick,

I've been aboard the 33, 37, and 40(?) foot versions of the boats Delphia imports to NAmerica. For the price etc, very nice boats. Are reasonably quick using the PHRF of a local 33 when comparing it to other 32-34' boats. Not J-boat quickness, nor a Hunter slug either.


Look forward to an impression via here or PM.

01-15-2009 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by eMKay View Post
I haven't seen one in person, but if there is one in Toronto I'll have to go look, if only to see what my 4th boat is like as it will be awhile before I can buy one of those, but it looks great for my purpose. And the problem with current production boats is the crap wood in the interior, the best interior I saw in a modern boat was a Hunter 27, because it didn't have any wood! If you're not going to do it right, don't do it at all. So that 3200 with very little wood should be perfect. I like a bright clean interior.
The nicest interior on a sailboat at the show and the only one without a ridiculous lineup to get aboard was the Delphia 37. Solid mahogany wood throughout, well laid out, beautiful systems installation. Sadly, I had to tell the admiral to choose a house or that boat as the price difference is only $100K.
01-15-2009 10:34 AM
Originally Posted by MarthaT View Post
They are having a show here soon, I cannot wait, ill get pics to show too

Just so we know, because I have no idea.........
Where is here?

And, if you are talking about Chicago, than you need to sign up for our little get together on Friday evening.
01-15-2009 09:15 AM
MarthaT They are having a show here soon, I cannot wait, ill get pics to show too

This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome