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Stove replacement...

8K views 35 replies 18 participants last post by  Islander30Dorado 
#1 ·
I'm looking to replace the kerosene/alcohol stove in my 1980 Catalina 30. Ideally, what I'd like is a simple gimballed two-burner that runs on kerosene, but I haven't found anything of the sort available. I'm not crazy about butane canisters, and I don't have space for a proper propane locker. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
#2 ·
You could convert your existing stove to propane and hang a small propane tank off your pushpit. At least that's what I did with one of our boats with an alcohol stove and another boat with a kerosene stove. Propane is sure handy. The wife always wondered why I stood up on the bow each time she lit it though.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Hawg, When we ordered our new boat in 1999 we had the propane stove deleted. My wife is night supervisor of a burn center here and she did not want propane on board.

We went the non-pressurized alcohol stove a ORIGO
2 burner and have been very happy with it. With a rail mounted BBQ also we cook anything we wish.

I haven't seen a kerosene boat stove for years. you may want to check out camping gear.


 
#5 ·
I'm not trying to hijack so I'll keep this brief, but I've been thinking about stoves recently as well. I don't have any experience with them, but I'm thinking about a diesel, specifically a Dickie Bering.

Have you ruled out diesel ? If so, why ? (besides the smell,lol)
 
#8 ·
I'll second the Origo. An added advantage is since it uses denatured alcohol, you can buy fuel anywhere that sells painting supplies.
 
#11 ·
I've also had a couple of Origo Alchohols in the past and was satisfied but they are not gimbled and have no holder/clamps. That Taylor looks interesting being gimbled and clamped. Since we rarely cook much underway/heeled if I had to prioritize gimble or pan holder/clamps (I have both) I would choose Pan Holder/Clamps because most stove gimbals are only in one plane (more like a hinge really) for heeling and at anchor you could get "waked" fore or aft. At least if the pan is secured gimbled or not it "should" stay put.
 
#13 ·
Origo works fine

We love our 2 burner gimballed Origo. Easy to clean and safe. We hope to try a Dutch oven this year and make fresh rolls and bread. :)
 
#14 ·
You can always go to the nearest camping store and get a camping stove that runs on butane, then keep the butane canisters (about the size of a big cigar) in a bag fastened to the lifelines.
Yeah, it's not abyc certified, but what it is is a 1980 Catalina 30, and I'm doubting SailHog actually cooks his food anyway.
 
#15 ·
Thanks for all the thoughtful replies... I yanked the stove and the tank out of the boat yesterday and discovered the problem. The fuel line, which runs from the stern lazarette to the galley, has an occlusion in it, and the tank itself has a nasty little leak at the brass exit valve. I think I can solve both problems, so long as I can find a replacement fuel line with the proper fitting. I'm going to mend the valve with some plumbing thread goo that won't dissolve when in contact with denatured ethyl alcohol.

Tell me if I'm being too careful here, but I've already got a gasoline inboard on this boat, and I'm not ready to go with yet another combustible gas (propane or butane).

Anyway, thanks for all the help. You guys are the very best.
 
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#20 ·
Just hung up the phone... The fellow said they don't carry the rubber line anymore, and suggested that I go with copper tubing. He says the fittings are readily available, although I neglected to ask him where. Copper tubing is going to be a PITA to snake through from the galley to the stern lazarette... Whataya think?
 
#24 ·
You have beautiful young ladies on board. You also have a pressurize stove with a leaking valve. I would throw the S. O. B overboard and go with a non-pressurized stove for the sake of the kids.

I dislike pressurized stoves (flare ups).
Mike,
The leak is in the tank, which is far removed from the stove and flame. Can't you put a alcohol fire out with a glass of water? That was my understanding.
 
#25 ·
The non pressurized stoves can't flare. The Origo is as idiot proof as can be. I am sure you could put one out with a large glass of water but the knob on the front of the stove moves a plate that slides over the burner and smothers the flame.

If a pressurized stove flares, what happens is more fuel under pressure passes out the metering valve in a mist and you have 3 or 4 foot flames. You are not going to put it out until you get the fuel turned off.
 
#28 ·
I'd second what Bubb said... pressurized alcohol stoves are a serious danger. BTW, water is not recommended as a fire extinguishing medium for alcohol fires, unless it is heavy water spray, since alcohol can burn at relatively dilute (40% by volume) levels. What can happen with an alcohol fire that you try dumping a bucket of water on is that the alcohol dilutes a bit and continues burning where ever it ends up... often burning in the bilges. With the lower amount of alcohol available to the non-pressurized stoves, you're a lot safer.
 
#29 ·
...Ideally, what I'd like is a simple gimballed two-burner that runs on kerosene, but I haven't found anything of the sort available...
I gave you the link to a perfect solution. Now you're talking about patching a fuel leak with bubble gum or something. [Grabs Hog by shoulders, shakes violently] What's gotten into you, man?:D :D :D

P.S. I like Bubb's advice on the alcohol. If that's your fuel of choice, non-pressurized is the better approach.

P.P.S. Sounds like the old stove would make a good kellet.

P.P.P.S. Has it ben warm enough down there to work on boats? 5 degrees F this morning here in Chesapeake country. I think I'll skip the trip to the boat this weekend.
 
#30 ·
Unless you can find the necessary parts and repair/replace the line from the tank correctly, either replace your stove with a non-pressurized alcohol stove or a propane stove. A new propane installation is going to be lot of work and cost you several times what a drop-in Origo will. Depends on how much cruising you do and how much you use the stove if the extra work and cost is worth it.
 
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