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09-27-2004 10:01 AM
amangos
Starting a charter in Greece

A boat can be charter in Greece, under a EU flag, but...

you must have first a simular proffessional charter lissense in your country

you got to follow the Greek laws like Greeks do, pay the Greek social security (TEBE), get a Greek VAT number, and be inspected according the Greek laws, from Hellenic Register of Ships.

You dont need anymore a Greek partner (51%).

09-24-2004 07:50 AM
avournas
Starting a charter in Greece

Gavin

I didn''t receive your message. Pls contact me through my site: www.almiyachts.com

Alexander
09-23-2004 12:05 AM
yotti
Starting a charter in Greece

Alex
Thank you for the help.
I have sent a message to you
Just in case you do not get it please let me know.
Regards
Gavin
09-23-2004 12:00 AM
yotti
Starting a charter in Greece

Sailmaster,
Thank you once again. Its so hard when you have a vision in your head and you know it can work, it is just getting round the legal side of things and doing all the gorund work.
Your charter sounds lovely and really exclusive. Well i will see how i get on and might even bump into you in some mediterrenean bar.
Regrards
Gavin
09-22-2004 12:42 PM
avournas
Starting a charter in Greece

I guess the best thing to do is to forward you the email adress of a Brit friend of mine, who lives here -in Corfu- and does exactly that. He charters his British flagged boat (actually his registration licence was the #1

I do not find appropriate to publish his email address, therefore -if you are interested- pls email me and I''ll forward you his address.

Alex
09-22-2004 08:33 AM
sailmaster25
Starting a charter in Greece

Gavin
the best of luck in your venture, I have a slight advantage in that I was born here and speak fluent greek, I charter a 57 foot yacht with 3 cabins and offer a 5 star style charter that includes everything exspect airline tickets. My cleint base is varied but mostly americans,Brits,Australians,Kiwi''s and some Northern Europeans, although they prefer the bare boat scence as a whole. I run one yacht my self and half 50% share in another also doing the same thing. It is a full time job filling the yachts with charters as people today shop for price, unfortunately that seems to be the most important criteria, its only when they get here and find service lacking do they start to moan... as they say you get what you pay for.....coming to greece and seeing the whole operation will be a good idea, but bare in mind there are alot of companies doing the same and greeks do like to copy things quickly,.... case in point I have been trying to get away from the word skippered charter, it implies a bareboat with captain, so we offer Captained guided cruises, you know what... so do most all the other greek charter companies now!!! only its still a bareboat with greek captain, so one tries to break the stereo type, only to have it used and twisted back to the orginal formula.... oh well...
Any way good luck, its a tough business and very very cut throat
09-22-2004 12:04 AM
yotti
Starting a charter in Greece

Avournas.
Thank you for the bits and peices.
I had heard that the EU rules were changing at some piont but not many people i spoke to knew when.
I was thinking of maybe spending a few weeks in Greece trying to get some more info on what is needed. do you have any suggestions on how the best way to approach it would be.
Regards
Gavin
09-22-2004 12:02 AM
yotti
Starting a charter in Greece

Sailmaster,
Thank you for the advice. it certainly looks like I have my work cut out for this venture.
Well the more you put in the more you get out.
Where do you currently charter from and what type of vessel do you have.
Did you have lots of prior knowledge about greece before you started your charters or were you also starting from a one boat fleet.
If my marketing and target audiance is good is it going to be that difficult to keep the baot chartered.
09-21-2004 09:30 PM
sailmaster25
Starting a charter in Greece

thanks for the corrections, laws have been changing too quick to keep up these days, one other item I forgot to mention, is that to keep you commerical license current each year the vessel must charter a minmum of 60 days a year, does not seem much but in these times it can be a problem to get the clients, alot of yacht did not make that 60 day limit this year and will be struggling to find the days to keep there licnese....
good luck
09-21-2004 01:03 AM
avournas
Starting a charter in Greece

Hi Gavin

There are some mistakes on sailmaster''s advise, under the newest Greek laws. These are:

1. You no longer need a 51% Greek partner, for as long you are a citizen of an EU country. You can issue the company 100% under your name.

2. Correct. Costs are about euros 150 per month. By doing that, you are actually entering in the Greek social security system (health and pention)

3. Correct.

4. Wrong. You no longer need to issue the vessel under Greek flag. You may perfectly well and legally charter her under your own country''s flag (again, this country must be an EU member).
The remarks a, b, c, d and e are correct and they apply to any flag your vessel is.

To summarise, you may charter your UK flagged, 100% owned by you vessel in Greece, but in order to do that you must follow the Greek laws regarding charter vessels and pay your taxes (for that business) in Greece.

Alexander Vournas
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