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02-22-2009 08:33 PM
Hobos I agree with Sailormann. As a precaution I also take the handle of the discharge valve and throw in the bottom of my tool kit.
02-22-2009 08:22 PM
magnusmurphy Here is a quote from:

Facts Victoria Sewage Alliance

"Victoria pumps 130 million litres of raw sewage daily into waters just off Victoria’s harbour. It is pumped into our pristine ocean through two one-meter wide pipes 60 and 65 meters under the surface by twin 1000 horsepower motors.
Don't currents in the Strait dilute the sewage rapidly?

Contrary to what we’ve been told, the currents near the outfalls do not carry the sewage out into the Pacific; the net current at the outfall depths is east into Georgia Strait. Further, because currents change direction with the ebb and flow of the tide, a lot of the sewage either stays nearby or flows back into Georgia Strait. Also, dilution does not get rid of what’s in sewage (organics, pathogens like hepatitis, heavy metals or chemicals) and therefore it doesn’t prevent the long-term damage to the environment, or the waste of the energy and mineral resources carried by sewage".
02-22-2009 08:18 PM
magnusmurphy Has anyone yet mentioned that the city of Victoria - the CAPITOL of British Columbia, dumps its seware RAW, into Juan de Fuca Strait?
So, if you pump your boat out in Victoria, it will probably go into the municipal sewage system but come straight back as raw sewage into the ocean.
Go figure...

M Murphy
02-20-2009 11:55 PM
Sailormann All you need is a diverter valve that is clearly marked to indicate the holding tank routing and the overboard routing. Locking your valve in the holding tank position constitutes "visibly disconnecting" the means of overboard discharge.

When the diverter valve is set to the holding tank position, the head is no longer connected to the overboard discharge - hence it is "disconnected". You can see that is it disconnected because the labels on the y valve indicate the direction of flow - so you have indeed "visibly disconnected" the overboard discharge.

So don't panic - there is no reason to start ripping out your thru-hulls in order to go cruising Georgian Bay.
02-20-2009 10:35 PM
Valiente I haven't been boarded, but I've been "pulled over" twice around Toronto Harbour in my Zodiac. They seemed disappointed when I whipped out a bailer, a heaving line, some flares, a GPS, a VHF, the proper PFD, my 1999 PCOC card, a Harbour Licence...

Hey, just because I look like a Hells Angel....
02-20-2009 10:15 PM
boatpoker 35 years of cruising each and all of the Great Lakes and no one on the Canadian side has ever asked to see my waste system .... never even been boarded in Canadian waters. We don't have much enforcement of anything on the water up here.
I have been boarded and inspected in Minnesota, Illiinois, Michigan, Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Virginia, North Carlona, Sout Carolina, Georgia and too damn frequently in Florida
02-20-2009 11:31 AM
o, we tied to the gas dock pumped our holding tank out with a gusher bucket by bucket full and carried it in driving sleet 1/4 mile to the porta pot discharge toilet.How about that for dedication guys!!!
I admire that dedication. Two boats ago, we removed the marine head and installed a portapotty with a holding tank with around five gallon capacity. In B.C. Canada, I'd walk that thing up to the public restroom and carefully dump it down the toilet. I'm pretty sure it went down a long pipe back into the bay. But I slept good at night.
02-20-2009 09:39 AM
sck5 I thought all the regs on the great lakes were the same by international treaty. i know there are plenty of boats back and forth across Lake Ontario and I never heard of anyone pulling hoses. But maybe I just dont know.
02-19-2009 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by xort View Post
(c) no means of removal of toilet waste is provided other than the means mentioned in clause (b);

When you read the other post I made that comes from the Canadian govt. I would not count on a diverter valve being acceptable

"In these areas, a pleasure craft fitted with a toilet must also be fitted with a holding tank and if fitted with a piping system that allows the discharge of sewage directly overboard, then this discharge must be visibly disconnected"
Tied and tagged or handle removed would meet the letter of the law, and, more importantly, the application of the law, at least by our local marinas. If there is no visible means to open a valve, and/or all means to open a valve are visibly disabled, then the valve is for all intents and purposes disconnected. This law has been on the books since last year, and I have not heard of a US boater getting fined or refused entry into any of our local marinas.
02-19-2009 06:15 PM
winterbuoy This is a bit off topic but as you well know, anything above Hwy #7 is " Up North". Have been all over Ontario as I was raised in Toronto, that being said it is God's country up there and I love it in the summer. We are currently living in east TN at the foot of the Great Smoky Mountains and the boat is in Toronto as we live aboard there in the summer. I have to tell you this, if you've never been down to this area, it gives Ontario a run for the money and it truly is beautiful here. Americans are blessed with this fine country. And I guess you thought all Torontonians think the world stops at Woodbridge!
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