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|02-23-2009 05:27 PM|
My answers are in your questions below.
Originally Posted by BoxedUp View Post
|02-23-2009 05:03 PM|
|xort||problems can arise when they offer packaging. if you want the transom shower, you have to take the autopilot; or some such nuttiness.|
|02-23-2009 04:57 PM|
Some manufactures offer prewireing options, ie power to the nav desk for VHF. probably a good use of $$ spent at the factory if you will, then your boat does not need to be torn up in the end to run wires! If you want an outside shower in the cockpit, probably better to do at the factory! Heat from what I can tell, is a so-so option. Some cases better to do at the factory, others save your money!
Bimini's can be so-so too. Some factory ones are great, others, you want something a bit different, so have it down locally!
Price out the options you want aftermarket, vs factory vs DYI and decide on your time availible, $$ in sheelbarrow etc. Not that this is a boat, but when I bought by Bobcat skid steer for work, I figured out which options I wanted, which were literally factory best installed, and which the dealer did. Ordered the best at factory options, and left the others be!
|02-23-2009 04:37 PM|
Originally Posted by eMKay View Post
There are a few options that can and should be done by the factory for economies of scale since they can buy in hundred lots. Then there are options that are better done by your dealer so that you have someone close by to help when the need arises. Then there are those things you can do yourself but you better be handy, have the right tools for the job, and have the time to do it.
I had to do a lot myself and learn in the process. Sure I learned alot, and I know how every little thing was installed because I did it so if something fails I can trouble shoot it pretty fast.
That said it is still a major PITA to be a DIY kind of guy and the cost of doing something after the fact can be high. For example, I scrapped the rollerfurler option to save some $$, but within the first year I realized what a dumb decision it was. It took me a few more years to get a furler and install it myself and then have the hank-ons converted to #6 luff, after all was said and done it would have been less expensive and less frustrating to have taken the roller furler option at the outset. Ditto for several other options but I had to go to the school of hard knocks and learn the hard way. Yes I learned how to do a few things for myself but I also learned some lessons in frustration.
Like someone else said it is paramount that you have the confidence in your dealer to do the work properly otherwise it is best you do it yourself and endure the frustration, at least you know it is done to your satisfaction. Still if I thought my dealer could do a good job, and he has done some work for me in the past I would get him to do it. If the dealership changes management and you are not familiar with the new folks, you are taking a risk, back to DIY. My biggest complaint is that many dealers do not provide the level of aftermarket options/service that some buyers would like, and I would be one of those buyers with a wheelbarrow. It is just easier and less frustrating to have an experienced person do the work for you than have to learn yourself, at least that is my experience and I still engage in DIY projects just because I cannot always afford to pay someone else. Life sucks!
|02-23-2009 03:35 PM|
Just came across this post and I think it answers some of my questions on who should do the electronics install:
Always comes back to "Caveat Emptor"...
|02-22-2009 08:21 PM|
Originally Posted by eMKay View Post
|02-22-2009 08:13 PM|
|eMKay||If it were me, I would be buying the boat with zero options (except those that MUST be done at the factory, like keel or rig) Because I can't see how anyone can justify charging $700 for a VHF, or $900 for a CD player, or $2000 for a 15" TV, or $2200 for helm sheeting, or I could go on and on and on. I started a thread on it, but I got the impression there that most people would rather roll up a wheelbarrow full of money than do a little work on their own.|
|02-22-2009 06:56 PM|
|02-22-2009 06:35 PM|
You'll want to consider this from all aspects, Mr. Purchasing Manager.
If you read this thread, you'll find there's more than just purchasing the equipment "right" to make you a happily satisfied customer. http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...auderdale.html
Of course, if you're going to install the gear yourself and are comfortable in dealing with whomever you buy it from in terms of warranty and availability of installation and tuning advise, you can purchase the gear anywhere.
Otherwise, the reputation of the dealer or marina you end up working with becomes paramount. Once you find one you're confident in, you'll benefit from their advise and expertise as they'll be the one's standing behind the gear and the work.
The individual wants and needs of boat owners are so varied that any boat sitting at a dealership is likely to be either bare-bones equipped or fully outfitted with nothing much in between the two boats.
I'd talk with as many people as you can with similar boats to find out what has worked well for them. Have fun, it's time-consuming but still a lot of fun as it's your boat!
|02-22-2009 06:07 PM|
|sailingdog||Xort's got a good point. As for what the case is with Catalina, you might want to ask CruisingDad, as he is the Catalina 400 Technical Editor for their owner's association newsletter and fairly knowledgeable about the boats. He might also know a bit about the dealer in question.|
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