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|07-28-2009 07:21 AM
I made the mistake of anchoring overnight in Marigot (with the intention of returning to the Dutch side) and was asked by the mobile customs patrol to check in on the French side. In order to do that I had to dinghy back to the Dutch side and clear out, then dinghy back to Marigot and check in there. The whole process took hours.
|07-27-2009 12:39 PM
HI, saw your post on Sailnet.com
We are using VPM for one of their new Salina 48's in March.
What can you tell me about VPM and your trip?
firstname.lastname@example.org is my email.
|03-18-2009 05:04 PM
Might be too late to provide some of the information -- nevertheless, here is an update.
I charted with a company called VPM or Bestsail. Bestsail AG I was a little nervous about the company because I didn't get a whole lot of information in the booking process. They basically just wanted to make sure I was paid up. In the end it worked out fine though. The price was comparable to the other companies and there was indeed a boat ready for us when we got there. The charter company is located in Anse Marcel, which is the bay just east of Grand Case.
Customs was a bit of a pain but not to bad. We immediately cleared out at Anse Marcel. That cost 2.75 usd. We then went down and stayed in Simpson Bay one night (and took part in the Heiniken Regatta party) and then spent the next day in Simpson Bay Lagoon. We didn't clear into the Dutch side (were too late to make it to customs.) I don't think anyone really cares or notices.
We then headed over to Isle Forche (on St. Barts) and spent the night there. The next day we went down to Columbia beech on St. Barts and then spent the night in Gustavia. We paid 15 euros in Gustavia just to anchor for the night and to clear in and out. We were able to clear in and out in a single transaction. Again, technically, we probably should have told them that we had spent the previous night in St. Barts.
We then sailed up to the north side of Anguilla. We were to late to make it to customs there so we never cleared in or out of Anguilla. It does sound like Anguilla charges some hefty fees for national parks, etc. I think one night would have been around $60 us. I don't know that for sure...
It was a good trip all and all. Lots of wind. It was more out of the north, which I understand is a little unusual for down there. The anchorage in Anguilla (Road Bay) was rather rolly and uncomfortable for example.
|03-01-2009 01:31 PM
Epic, who are you chartering with?
I'm going on the same trip the first week of April. Chartering Drooy, a FP Bahia with Horizon. We're going to stay the first day in St. Maarten so we arrive in Anguilla on Monday. Then Monday and Tuesday in Anguilla, Wed, Thurs, and Fri to St. Barts, Saturday back to St. Maarten, then Sunday fly out. Pretty stoked about the trip.
What anchorages are you looking at?
|03-01-2009 08:01 AM
I'll be there in four days and try and make note of the fees and post if different than above. I doubt that the fees have changed in the last week from what mG405 posted however.
|03-01-2009 06:48 AM
... and pls. don't forget to report back any valuable information, difference from fee rates as mentioned above etc. Updated information is translated into time saved, money not wasted and eventually more pleasure!
|02-17-2009 11:01 PM
Thanks for all the detail marinegirl!
We're counting the days till we get to enjoy the warm weather!
|02-15-2009 04:09 PM
Oh - I didn't mention that once you've anchored/docked your boat, you can legally (no paperwork required) move between the French / Dutch side on foot, road, car, bus, dinghy etc... Nearly all the restaurants on the lagoon have dinghy docks, and the Boat stores do to - so once you're anchored you can get around easily on your dinghy unless it is really windy (In which case you can still get around, but expect to get wet)
Also your dinghy can easily go under either bridge so you aren't even restricted to the lagoon.
There is also a water taxi service, but I've never heard anyone try to call on the VHF, they advertise a phone number.
|02-14-2009 03:13 PM
I'm In Dutch St Maarten currently, and have swapped sides (and gone on out to Anguilla and back) in the last couple of weeks. Each time clearing in/out with the appropriate customs... I'm not sure if anyone would notice if you didn't, but it's easier on the conscience if you just do it properly.
Firstly the Dutch have recently doubled all their charges for entering and staying in the lagoon (or in Simpson Bay) so any cruising guide you have may be out of date. Of course you don't HAVE to stay in the simpson bay, or the lagoon. If you do enter the lagoon. There are two entrances to the lagoon (one on dutch side, one on french side) - both require bridge lifting, and the bridge(s) only operate 3 times a day in the high season - Dutch side charge a fee if you use the bridge (Collected when/if you clear customs), French side does not. If you are just passing through, and not stopping on the French side you can go through the French bridge and not clear in to French side - at least that is what Dutch Port Authority told us).
The French do not charge to be on their side in the lagoon, dutch do - so if you are trying to avoid costs, you might enter through the dutch bridge, and then go and check in in French side in Marigot, and anchor on the French side too.
Marigot Customs / Port Authority are CLOSED on the weekend, and close at 4pm other days. (We cleared in for a $5US fee) in Radisson Marina at Anse Marcel - over the weekend on route back from Anguilla.
Dutch side Customs/Port Authority is open every day until 5 (our cruising guide told us 3pm, but it was definitely later on a weekend even).
Dutch Simpson Bay Lagoon charges:
Need to pay from Bridge, lagoon, harbour fees as relevant and then a clearance fee also - see Fees & Info
Bridge fees during regular opening hours entering the Lagoon:
USD 10 for boats from 9 to 12 meters in length
USD 30 for boats from 12 to 15 meters in length
USD 60 for boats from 15 to 18 meters in length
USD 120 for boats from 18 to 22 meters in length
USD 200 for boats from 22 to 28 meters in length
USD 300 for boats from 28 to 36 meters in length
USD 500 for boats from 36 meters and larger.
USD 20 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 8 to 13 meters in length
USD 40 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 13 to 18 meters in length
USD 60 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 18 to 23 meters in length
USD 90 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 23 to 28 meters in length
USD 120 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 28 to 33 meters in length
USD 150 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 33 to 38 meters in length
USD 180 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 38 to 43 meters in length
USD 210 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 43 to 50 meters in length
USD 250 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 50 to 75 meters in length
USD 290 per week or a portion of a week for boats from 75 meters or larger
Customs Clearance fees:
USD 2 for boats of 1 – 99 gross tons
USD 5 for boats of 100 – 499 gross tons
USD 9 for boats of more than 500 gross tons
Harbor Clearance fees:
USD 5 for boats of 1 – 99 gross tons
USD 10 for boats of 100 – 499 gross tons
USD 20 for boats of more then 500 gross tons
French - MARIGOT BAY charges
Clearance fee: 5 euros
Initial administrative fee includes first day anchoring charges:
8 to 13 meters: 20 euros
13 to 18 meters: 30 euros
18 to 23 meters: 40 euros
23 to 28 meters: 50 euros
28 to 33 meters: 60 euros
33 to 38 meters: 70 euros
38 to 43 meters: 100 euros
43 to 50 meters: 120 euros
50 to 75 meters: 130 euros
more than 75 meters: 150 euros
Days 2 & 3: 0.25 euros per meter per day
Days 4 and thereafter: 0.35 euros per meter per day
(they might change this to all days at 0.25 euros/m/day)
Residents of French St. Martin:
0.13 euros per meter per day
No minimum fee. A 10m boat is 20 euros, then 2.50 euros/day for days 2 & 3.
No charge for French lagoon, Grand Case, etc... Only for Marigot Bay.
Based on honor system, but next week they will have a harbour patrol boat to check who is in the bay.
|02-03-2009 07:37 PM
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I should probably include plans of checking in and out if we go up to Anguilla/St. Barts (then again if we don't -- maybe it isn't a huge deal).
I'm chartering with VPM -- based out of north east side -- Anse Marcel.
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