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|03-13-2009 04:26 PM|
Originally Posted by Brezzin View Post
I would prefer a boat not to be cored anywhere in the hull; but if I wanted a new racer/cruiser and it is built with coring I think I would want an Airex core or whatever the latest and most resilient core material is.
|03-13-2009 10:01 AM|
|Brezzin||Take a look at those pictures. The Balsa core is laid up in 4"x4" blocks. Each block is laid up with the grain in an alternating direction from it's neighbor. In addition each block is individually sealed. The benefit here is that if hull leakage does occur the moisture won't wick over a large area and the balsa won't rot because it's been sealed. Why a cored hull in the first place? Insulation, stiffening and weight reduction. Personally I think hunter has done a good job with the cored hulls.|
|03-13-2009 09:46 AM|
Originally Posted by KeelHaulin View Post
I guess your preference for steel hulls is showing as there are very, very few FRP boats made these days with solid core topsides. Bur then, repairing a damaged section of steel would be harder still.
Replacing a damaged core section on a cored hull would be equivalent to that done on a cored deck - something I suspect you already know... and these typre repairs are usually stronger than the original build.
|03-13-2009 07:13 AM|
Originally Posted by eMKay View Post
k1vsk- Any portion of the boat below the deck joint is considered the "hull"; so yes the hull is partially balsa cored. The concerns with moisture getting in or crush damage from hitting a dock or pile is high on boats constructed with cored hulls. With the way these boats are constructed; how would you deal with core replacement? It looks to me like you would have to cut the outer hull away and re-glass it on as if you were re-coring a deck. But I don't think I would trust that type of repair to a hull.
|03-10-2009 11:31 PM|
Reference my previous post on this thread regarding Hunter and Caliber:
The beginning post seems to me to show some good work by Hunter and I think that the other production boats also have good work. (If they didn't do most of what they do correctly, including keeping costs and selling price in line, Hunter, Catalina, and Beneteau wouldn't be the largest producers. i.e., if you get it right, you stay in business and grow, get it wrong for very long and you're gone).
As to the Caliber boats. As far as I know, they are fine boats and I've never heard anything negative about them. And with the large tankage and rugged construction, they seem well suited for long distance sailing. As to having internal ballast, one could argue that this is a more expensive and better way to do things vs. a bolt on keel. While I don't like the idea of steel pellets, the same approach with lead pellets would seem to be fine. I guess they never have problems with leaking keel bolts either.
As some others said, every boat is a compromise and every owner's needs are a little different. It just seems a shame that one's pride and joy has to get trashed by others. If you've bought a boat, small or large, production or custom, old or new, it really can take the edge off your pleasure to have people trash it.
|03-10-2009 09:13 PM|
Originally Posted by Brezzin View Post
This is how they describe it on the website ... no mention of material used in the keel...
• HKT Kevlar Hull Reinforcement
• Hull, FRP/ Balsa Sandwich Above
Waterline, Solid FRP bottom
• Hull, Structural Grid Reinforcement
• Keel, Shoal Draft
|03-10-2009 08:56 PM|
Originally Posted by sailordave View Post
I was going to say it was good to see a positive thread on Hunters but someone had to be an a$%......... looked in the mirror lately ???
|03-10-2009 06:43 PM|
Originally Posted by k1vsk View Post
|03-10-2009 06:12 PM|
The prior post is absolutely correct. What we seem to have here is another demonstration of human nature to either a. criticize something other than what you have to preclude self-doubt in some folks minds they made the wrong choice, or b. the desire to sound authoritative by the act of criticism.
Case in point - the example of a Hylas 46 as something above criticism - we had one and the anchor locker, chafe protection and overall design of the bow area was terrible and almost lead to destruction of the boat.
No boat is perfect. For all the fans of masthead rigged, full keel, solid glass, small cockpit, skeg-hung rudder boats, most of the racing crowd thinks they are nuts.
|03-10-2009 05:09 PM|
Originally Posted by NCC320 View Post
I wrote up the Caliber factory tour. As stated I really like the boat and how it is made. While some here may argue about some of the short cuts, I don't see them as short cuts. You couldn't give me an IP for example. My point here and as stated over and over, over and over again different boats for different folks. There is no perfect boat out there except maybe for Alex's boat ( except he couldn't sail it in the Florida waters, the Bahamas without running aground). Each and every boat has compromises depending on the designer and owners needs.
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