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03-31-2009 01:33 PM
imagine2frolic can you spell HARNESS ? It has, and will possibly again save my life.. ...i2f
03-31-2009 01:13 PM
sailingdog ONe thing about using twin headsails. DON'T FALL OFF THE BOAT. If you do, the boat is going to be far, far away from you and you'll be shark bait.
03-31-2009 11:55 AM
imagine2frolic I had two thoughts on this. One being the same as zz4gta with flying one free. The other running it up the headfoil. If a squall came through with the second headfoil being used. Turn the boat up, so the second headsail will lay against the first, and furl. The second headsail being smaller......i2f
03-31-2009 10:39 AM
zz4gta I wouldn't bother putting it on the forestay. Just use a spare halyard and free fly it. That way it can be doused in a hurry w/ out messing w/ the other headsail.
03-31-2009 09:57 AM
CBinRI Isn't that basically what a blooper was? I have never sailed with one but wasn't it a second light sail that would complement the spinnaker that would keep the boat from rolling too much? Bloopers have pretty much faded into obscurity, though, with the move toward lighter boats and asymmetrical spinnakers.
03-31-2009 12:30 AM
GertCL In Germany we call that a *dobble genua*. That are two identic sails, which you can use separated from 3/4 to full back winds. For half wind and higher you take them together on one side. The stuff is thinner as for a normal genua.

Ahoi, Saltbuckle
03-27-2009 10:46 AM
celenoglu This is a common way of downwind sailing. If you use twin headsails without the main, the boat travels with the wind and you do not have to use the tiller. If the boat changes direction the sails redirect the boat.
03-27-2009 10:20 AM
JohnRPollard
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Originally Posted by mccary View Post
That Dana is singlehanded with a tiller pilot, I am impressed with that fact that it keeps it on course so well and not back winding either sail while the skipper flies the kite (actual kite with camera, not a chute).
Joe,

Having owned and sailed a Dana 24 for a number of years, I'm not surprised. Actually, he probably could have managed without the tiller pilot -- that boat balances out very nicely. I never flew twin headsails, but based on our experiences, I doubt that tiller pilot is working very hard.
03-26-2009 11:39 PM
mccary [quote=JohnRPollard;466099]Here's a Dana 24 in action with twin-head sails:quote]

That Dana is singlehanded with a tiller pilot, I am impressed with that fact that it keeps it on course so well and not back winding either sail while the skipper flies the kite (actual kite with camera, not a chute).
03-25-2009 11:30 PM
pdqaltair
Masthead rig or 3/4 rig?

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Originally Posted by Ippa2 View Post
I was just curious if anyone ever sails with two heads sails... on the same head stay! I can't say I've ever seen this done in person. Maybe pictures in a magazine or something.

I have a 23 O'day Tempest that came with two jibs. It never occurred to me to hoist them both on a long downwind run and pass on the main, but is this possible or efficient? Pros or cons? Anyone?

Thanks!
I kind of recall they come both ways.

As someone pointed out, this is sort of a non-designed load. With a 3/4 rig the forestay and mast are significantly supported by the mainsail, even if there is a backstay, and a large load could pull the mast out of column. Triple reefs can be a problem in fractional rigs too, depending on the details of the mast support. I know that has caused masts to be pulled backwards and snapped. I saw the scrap metal.

Just keep a lid on it and you will be fine.
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