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12-13-2004 03:12 PM
And Freedom For All

I saw the pictures of this kid he was a whole foot shorter than a standard chainlink gate. They were filming the kid and he kicked the gate open and went into his back yard not happy that all the idiots with cameras were asking him ,How do you feel. Well if some one shot you in the chest and about one inch above your wennie with a dart and knocked you on your butt how would you feel. Remember when you were a kid and the lid slammed down on mister winkie Ohhhhh shitttttt.Your tender at that age.
12-13-2004 02:07 PM
And Freedom For All

Why would a kid who is confronted by 6 cops not drop the glass and/or anything else he was holding?

Was in Minneapolis last weekend and this was in the news; a cop responded to a call with his trained dog Ė a young naked man is running around in someoneís unoccupied house. The cop confronts the kid, the kid lunges toward the cop and the dog responds by clamping onto the kidís scrotum. Dog lets go, kid loses a testicle, other cops are now on the scene and the kid keeps resisting/fighting them.

Cops arenít always right, but they have the might. Why fight that?

12-08-2004 07:41 AM
And Freedom For All

I just talked to a friend who is in Key West he says the place is "sick" and that is not slang for cool. The big money is so parinoid they have to have everything secure and locked up so no one can spoil the paridise they have built for them and only them.The truth is I don''t care any more I am going to do as I please I will play it as close to the rules as I can but I am not going by the book. I don''t see how they think that a set of rules can work for such a diverse population that is totaly out of the question.And The kid they tazered did have a piece of broken glass from a picture frame to try and protect himself from six adults that had him cornered like a rabbit fighting off the dogs. The women officers who tazered him shot him in the chest and in his pelvic pubic bone both shots were uncalled for the chect shot could have been fatal to an adolecent.I saw the film of that I almost threw up . I was so outraged by the Nazi Bitches actions it was beyond words no matter what the child was small and they should have backed off and let him calm down.Had he had a gun I can see that kind of force but a piece of glass get some welding gloves and take the glass away from him or simply break the glass with a baton that,would have been my way but then I am not some hyped on steroids rookie cop.Oh there I go stereo typing them that makes me just like them except I did not rscially profile them.Geez they may come and drag me away for this under the homeland security act.Semper Fi
12-08-2004 04:05 AM
And Freedom For All

Finally got my vessel exchange for documentation forms off to the NVDC. The very helpful folks there said that is the policy of SC, that state does not require documented vessels have their state registration. I do not mind paying fees/taxes for state requirements, just that I do not and will not be living in Fl so don''t want to pay there. When my documentation is complete then I will register/title in SC so as not to be stateless. Good bye Fl. The bulletin board has people that are so angry in Fl and the way boaters/livaboards are being hassled. Makes the time frame for the long cruise come sooner and sooner...
12-08-2004 01:07 AM
And Freedom For All

Yes it is normal. What do you expect from a state that tazers 6 year old children with 50,000 volts. I lived in Florida for a few months. I moved because it''s a police state and I really didn''t feel safe there. They locked all the exit doors in my daughter''s middle school. The excuse was probably to keep the perverts out but what about if there is a fire? The place was like a prison. In the county next door a second grader got in a minor scuffle with his teacher. The police charged him and his name was published in the newspaper. The whole state is sick.
12-06-2004 05:53 AM
And Freedom For All

This discussion is going on some other boards also. Soaringwind3 where in AZ are you? I am at home in Az now (looking at the beautiful snow) but just returned from Fl and SC to get our boat a state registration. Thought if I went right to the SCDNR with my new SC address they would take my money but the lady said no, just need Documentation on this boat. I said that I wanted a state registration, she said no. I said then do I just choose a SC as my hailing port for Documentation, she said yes! Crazy. If I use AZ as my "hailing port" then don''t I owe sales tax to Az?
12-06-2004 05:32 AM
And Freedom For All


Your statement about any boat over 40 feet being required to be documented is not correct. The USCG regulation requires documentation for "any vessel of at least five net tons which engages in the fisheries on the navigable waters of the United States or in the Exclusive Economic Zone, Great Lakes trade, or coastwise trade..." Vessels used exclusively for recreation may be but are not required to be documented, and length is not an issue.
12-05-2004 11:42 AM
And Freedom For All

you do not have to have florida regitration for a documented boat.

we have a catalina 400 sailing out of bradenton/st pete florida.

That fish and game guy is full of crap and he knows it. He prolly did not get laid the night before.

Point in fact.. he did not have the authority to stop you period. Under federal law any boat over 40 feet is required to be documented. Anything under is a matter of personal choice. I am in the process of documenting my Ericson 27 so that i can take it out of the country with no hassle.

the feds [coasties] can legally board your boat at whim. The state guys have to have probably cause and if they harrass you they are walking on thin ice and they know it.

Call the Florida Fish and GAme commission and turn this jerk in.

I am sorry you had a bad experience. Not all of florida is like that.
good luck
12-02-2004 06:55 PM
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DelmarRey adds to what I was trying to say but I get to excited or maybe its That NRA thing I''m not sure. This guy came on like a bad guy and acted kind of crazy asking bogus questions and laying out senarios like what if you bought the boat here and never left. But I did but what if you did not. Dumb ass questions to ask a person who is visiting,I mean well then I ether died while in Florida IE I never would leave again or I moved to that state and had a Florida Drivers lic. I do not think however that making up a battery of questions of what if is right or has any place but in an interogation. Then writing a warning ticket that I still have that has my wifes hight and weight her Louisiana DL number the boats name but no number from the documentationthe date and no proof of regestration in the comment box. Not to mention I cut the hell out of my heal when the Nazi ordered me to drop that anchor back down and a wire through the clevis caught my heal and cut it all the way across about an inch and as blood flowed he never said once would you like to go put something on that. That A HOLE should not wear a badge, my dad was a Highway Patrolman for many years and a detective in Miami and I don''t think he ever treated anyone that way but he did quit to become a trucker they were more honest he said.The problem is that the number of jerks that wear a badge is growing and they have started to make up the rules to suit them selfs.That is a freedom rights issue in my book they want you to play by the rules but if they think they can change it a little to make it easy for them to find a violation they will and if it was not in the book they cover it up by burying the truth in bull ****.Interputation of the law is for Judges and lawyers not law inforcement who are assigned to protect and serve the public. To many want to have compleat control over anyone they incounter rather than serve them.
12-01-2004 08:04 AM
And Freedom For All

What''s with the fish and game?

I had a similar experience over here in Puget Sound. These guys are stepping over the line as far as jurisdiction.
I motored my dinghy over to a fuel dock in a marina where I was a guest for a night. As I approached, a F & G official wanted to know where my registration numbers and sticker were. I told the guy he better go back and read the rules. Here in Wa. anything under 10'' and 10HP does not require registration. Never the less, I didn''t even finish docking because I had forgotten to bring a life jacket and I didn''t want him getting into that. So I just motored back to my vessel pissed as hell.

You give a guy a badge and a gun and they think they know everything. They need to stick to their own agenda and if they see a problem they should call in the PROPER authorities.

A few years ago there was a big stink here about a parks ranger giving a citation to a guy cutting firewood on his own property. When he tried to take it to court the official couldnít be found. He didn''t exist. Something fishy there!
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