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04-05-2009 02:56 PM
Newport41 I just wanted to put is my two cents about the raritan PHII, I'm just installing a service kit in ours. Now that I have it all apart I can say that it is well designed, simple to maintain or repair, and ours seems to have lasted very well. Ours is older than 15 years and I'm only putting the new kit in so I don;t have to worry about it when we're offshore. I would highly recommend it.
04-05-2009 12:51 PM
denby I just bought a Raritan PHII from Sailnet. It was about $270 with freight and tax, had it the next day. Try pricing them here, if you have problems with Sailnet's site go to same company), it has a better search engine.
04-05-2009 08:03 AM

In the 4 years I have had it I am very happy. Has a great reputation & for your use would be fine. I've heard pretty much all good about the Lavac & the attraction to me on the Lavac would be less water use, fill tank slower. Just like with anything else, maintenance, maintenance. Give it about an hour every spring, new joker valve (for the standard units like PHII), grease etc.
04-05-2009 02:45 AM
jarcher Well the bad news is that for the Lavac, there is nowhere to mount the pump. But the good news is that it is virtually the same size as whats there now, and there is plenty of room behind it to build up a back wall with some recessed shelving to the left and the pump mounted to the right. That should actually be quite easy.

The head is port side forward, so the right side is less deep then the left side. I'll have room to run the hose up for a vent loop and mount the pump to the right, and make some recessed storage cubbies to the left.

There are two sea cocks right below the head. I'll have to decide if they stay or go. I guess for now they stay. I'll keep using the inlet, although I would prefer to share with the engine water inlet. I'll seal up the outlet and hopefully it won't sink my boat someday

At least the planning is moving along!
04-04-2009 02:45 PM
Valiente I've mentioned this before, but for what it's worth, the deal was sealed in 2006 when we bought our current boat the second my wife saw the Lavac (I had no idea she could recognize one). She said "Oh, yeah, the head you can flush a pair of jeans down. I like this boat."
04-04-2009 02:11 AM
jarcher I'll spend a lot of time this weekend scraping, but also measuring windows, vents, GPS mounting location and head area. Then I'll spend a good chunk of time this week researching and placing orders. If I'm lucky I'll be able to get to useful work next weekend.

So many projects, so little time...
04-03-2009 10:05 PM
sailingdog For manual heads, the Lavac and the Raritan PHC/PHII are basically the top rated by Peggie Hall, diva of marine head systems.
04-03-2009 09:59 PM
mgmhead Buy cheap...replace often. Never rebuild!!! I hate changing out a joker valve.
04-03-2009 09:27 PM
sailor25b After years of complaints from the Admiral and daughter, I bought a Raritan Elegance electric head. No review yet; I'm still awaiting delivery. The Elegance is a new line at Raritan, but I trust the company to put out a good product. I'll let you know soon enough!

After a nice discussion with a helpful fellow at Raritan Engineering, he persuaded me to buy this one instead of the PHEII that I originally thought I would buy to replace my old Jabsco manual head. He said although Raritan's been making the PH heads for years, it is noisy when operating with an electric pump. The Elegance has a remote raw water pump that can be installed elsewhere to minimize noise. He also said he would not buy an electric head that was merely a manual design with an electric motor bolted on, like the PHEII.
04-03-2009 09:12 PM
jarcher Yeah I have decided to spend the extra bucks to get a good one, after doing some reading in past threads and also based on your responses.

From reading the manuals online, it seems like the simplicity of the Lavac is hard to beat. The other seems less simple, but then again some manuals make things sound more complicated then they are. The side mounted pump of the other is very appealing, but the simplicity fo the Lavac trumps it. If I can find a good place to mount the pump for the Lavac I'll go that route.

Must it be mounted above the toilet? I'll have a very simple plumbing job. Water comes in, water goes to the tank. In RI we have to get an inspection that proves its impossible to discharge over the side (and they make us display a sticker) and I am not planning long trips anyhow. So Ill probably remove the through hull for discharge and glass it up. Some day. But for now, two hoses should do it...
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