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04-24-2009 02:22 PM
kaluvic I used to enjoy spending some of my holiday $ in the US.
Unfortunately, I don’t get that warm fuzzy US reception anymore.
The last two trips I made my entire family was "randomly selected" for the special security screening on EVERY ONE OF THE FLIGHTS we took.

I've lived in the Middle East for almost 20 years and figure that may have something to do with it.

I like to visit places that are a bit more welcoming.

The "Cubans" have expressed a real desire to have us visit.
04-24-2009 01:46 PM
NCountry Boy, there are only a few things one can really get out of this thread.
1. Cuba may be a nice place to visit but no one wants to live there!
2. It's no wonder America is in the situation it is. Americans can't even get along with each other most of the time.
3. The Dems finally have their wish. They have taken over. (be careful what you wish for, you may actually get it) It will be interesting to see where we're at in 4 years.
Now, my only comment. Unemployment is on the rise and I'm taking a stand. I don't care if I get a cuban, malaysian or who ever calling me wanting me to buy something or give me customer service. I tell them I don't deal with service people outside the United States and I hang up. If they want to do business in the US they should at least hire a few Americans. Same goes for Cuba! My vacation dollars this year will stay in the US! (OK, delete me now for being off topic) lol.........
04-24-2009 01:09 PM
AE28
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Originally Posted by zaliasvejas View Post
well, doing what we are doing doesn't seem to work, either.
What do you think is the solution in Cuba?
Can there be a solution? Greed for power is a universal vice it seems....

By the way, are the restriction for travel are from the US side?
I think the solution is to leave it alone and let the Cubans fix it themselves, presuming it needs "fixing".
04-24-2009 10:22 AM
kaluvic We are planning on visiting this summer.
We'll be traveling via air from Europe.
I'm an American and am wondering if/how I'll get into trouble?
04-24-2009 01:31 AM
LadiesoftheSea Cuba is one of my favorite countries. Havana has the most beautiful people, everyone always smiling and dancing, sharing stories and playing dominios while enjoying a bottle of havana club rum ( which the french own) . Yes they dont have much, but they are happy. There is no hungry homeless person on the sidewalk begging for money, they manage. I can promise that the "Aloha" in them will be no more. When we do lift the travel band, it will be the end of true cubano spice. Im pleased to have experianced it before the **** it the fan. Its going to get ugly in there. i promise.
04-17-2009 04:14 PM
camaraderie right on Paul...and they just LOVE cruisers there!

Dream of the tropics turns into a two-week nightmare
By Ray Oliver
As a lad growing up in Newcastle, England, I read the novels of Ernest Hemingway and imagined traveling the world, with Cuba being one of my dream destinations. After sailing the Atlantic in 2000, and landing in Barbados, I knew that one day I would have to travel north to see Havana for myself. This is the story of that misadventure.
My boat Cymar, an 11-meter Amel Kirk I bought 10 years previously in Port Carmargue, Southern France, carried me across the Atlantic. I cruised the Med with my wife, until she died six years ago. Since then, I have sailed alone most of the time. A 66-year-old yacht master, I have worked for Sunsail in the Solent and Canaries during the summer months, returning to Cymar to winter in the Caribbean.


Cymar on the hard, North Coast of Cuba.

After a bout with cancer in summer 2001 and a subsequent successful recuperation, I was fit to sail my lovely boat again. Cuba here I come!
I sailed through St. Martin, the British and American Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. One of my favourite places in the Caribbean is Luperon, near Puerto Plata. I spent some time there and so didn’t make it to Cuba that year. Luperon was a safe, cheap place to leave the boat, so I returned to England to build up the sailing kitty.
I set sail for Cuba on January 8, 2004. ....more
04-15-2009 03:12 PM
ottos
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Originally Posted by sck5 View Post
when you start calling everyone from Castro to middle of the road Democrats a "socialist" the word starts to lose any useful meaning.

But thats fine with me. It used to be that the word "socialist" was associated pretty much with communist regimes. Nowadays many republicans fling it around as a sort of namecalling playground taunt directed at everyone and everything to the left of wherever they are.
Socialism has a specific meaning. According to Wikipedia: "Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating public or state ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equality for all individuals, with a fair or egalitarian method of compensation." Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Without a doubt, this country has taken a socialist turn in the last several months. The government bought into and now owns 80% of AIG, has tried to control the compensation of AIG executives, and has effectively fired the CEO of GM, to name three just off the top of my head.

In my opinion the only justifiable reason for any government intervention is to maintain a viable and fair market. Anything beyond that is socialism...and it is a damned blurry line between the two.

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04-15-2009 02:00 PM
sck5 joe saila ...........if you think the USA is "like Cuba" or even heading that way.

when you start calling everyone from Castro to middle of the road Democrats a "socialist" the word starts to lose any useful meaning.

But thats fine with me. It used to be that the word "socialist" was associated pretty much with communist regimes. Nowadays many republicans fling it around as a sort of namecalling playground taunt directed at everyone and everything to the left of wherever they are. As it happens, most people LIKE what the Dems are doing and if that is what socialism is then they are OK with it. Most Americans are in fact to the left of the republican party and way to the left of the right wing of the republican party. The more you use the word to describe today's majority party the less pejorative it becomes (except of course to right wing nut jobs)

Any of you who doubt where the majority of americans are on the spectrum, here is a link - the repubs are down to under 30%!

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04-15-2009 08:48 AM
Joesaila
When it happens, it may be because of compatability

The more this gov't becomes socialistic, the more like Cuba it is.

Mao said, 'We will conquer you from within'. As one who strives to be a nuetral observer, I think that has occurred.
04-15-2009 01:09 AM
ottos
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Originally Posted by Cruisingdad View Post
The comments you just mentioned ar every similar to what I constantly heard in S Florida. Curious if that is where you are from too. - CD
Never lived in Florida...visited there frequently. Most of my family is there now. My parents came here in the 40's. I was born in NYC and reared on the Jersey Shore.

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Originally Posted by sck5 View Post
Give them an independent ability to make a living without the government controlling it and the government will start losing control.
This is where we disagree. Nothing in Cuba is done independently. It may appear so, but Castro is nothing if not a totalitarian dictator and master manipulator. He and his regime will benefit first and more than the people.

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