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|04-30-2009 08:41 AM|
One thing I
One thing I did not see mentioned is the "hand" of the line. Main sheets are more often sized for comfortable "hand" than for the actual load on smaller boats. A 3/8" sheet on a 30 footer will kill your hands, especially if you are a sail tweaker...
I'd personally go with a min of 1/2" for the comfort factor not the load. If you're not racing or are just a "set it and forget it" sailor then smaller line will be ok too..
|04-30-2009 08:09 AM|
Originally Posted by knothead View Post
I understand, but the person I quoted insinuated that a clutch would be more prone to jamming. ANY fairlead will jam with a hockle in the line. I'm with you guys, no clutches on any sheet. Personally, I'd set it up like a j24 jib sheet. Mount a cam cleat to the back of the bulkhead (vertical) and put the tail in that. Doesn't get much faster. My other post was giving advice on how to move things to accommodate a clutch on a mainsheet, not condoning the use of one.
|04-29-2009 09:10 PM|
Originally Posted by huguley3 View Post
I wouldn't ask you to watch the entire video, but take a look at the section between the 5:30 and the 5:45 marks (the time stamp on the video is 4:23:16) to get an idea of what I'm talking about.
I was easing the sheet with one hand while holding the camera with the other.
My Genoa sheet is set up in very much the same way as your mainsheet. I've been using it that way for many years and it's never failed me yet.
Originally Posted by sailingdog
Sometimes good advice bears repeating. As you are well aware.
|04-29-2009 06:54 PM|
On your Vberth, do you have any flat area's? if so, then you could do like I did in the flat area's that were foam back vinyl, I used a thin plywood veneer I got at Home Depot, ie door paneling, took some heavy brown wrapping paper. made as best as I could template, put it on the ply wood and cut about 1/4" out in my garage, then went to the boat with sabre saw, belt sander and proceeded to fit the plywood. Then came home and put the vinyl on the board with overlap to the back side about an inch, then stapled from the back, along with using contact cement on the living side. I have a balsa cored deck or some such thing for the most part, so I held the panels up with 1" screws and a cap on the screw I got at WM.
Both area's had a few more panels than I started with, the aft wall of the stateroom was vinyl, but I use the door paneling and varnished it. I've seen other models like mine with wood on that wall too.
The panels make it easier to get to thru deck bolts etc too.
If you want to talk some more off line here, pm me. I can get you pics of what I did to the v-berth too. I did not take too many before and after shots as that was the first thing I did, then did the aft room, head and finished with the main salon.
Then where you have the horn cleat, look at what I had, ie the horn styl jam cleat. Those work well too. I prefer them over the actual horn cleat or a clutch.
|04-29-2009 06:32 PM|
I've been saying this since the beginning.
Originally Posted by sailingfool View Post
|04-29-2009 05:41 PM|
Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
Thanks for the info on the clutch vs cleat everyone. I thought it was pretty straight that a horn cleat was a bad idea. I will have to try the suggestion that a single wrap and tuck after the winch to see if I am comfortable with how it holds. Maybe I can knock something off the list.
|04-29-2009 05:31 PM|
|Mark1948||Main sheet Cam Cleat! You need to be able to do a quick release and the clutch does not give that freedom.|
|04-29-2009 02:17 PM|
Originally Posted by knothead View Post
|04-29-2009 12:39 PM|
Originally Posted by zz4gta View Post
I would never advise someone to use a rope clutch for a mainsheet.
The OP has a very workable situation just the way it is. With the proper number of turns around the winch, there is virtually no load on the cleat. A single turn around the cleat counter clockwise will pinch the line and hold it just fine.
|04-29-2009 12:03 PM|
Originally Posted by paulk View Post
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