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10-08-2012 01:14 PM
SHNOOL
Re: steppng a mast on a 23 o'day pop top

This isn't a gin-pole config, but an A-frame on my Capri 22... I built it with 3 2.4s, 8 foot long, and they hold together with simple bolts, and wing nuts (so they fold down to 3 boards)... I use the mainsheet tackle to lift the mast from myself with very little effort. Gonna use the same thing on my Capri 25 to haul out this season.


You see on the stern too that I raise the mast up a bit with something sitting on the gudgeons, to support the mast higher than level (to clear the cabintop) before lifting. The opposite apex of the A-frame is secured with a fixed line to the bow cleat. I usually raise the A-frame slightly forward of the mast (2-3 feet), and tie the bottom off on port and starboard (to keep it from slipping on the fiberglass)... my 9 yo daughter can raise and lower the mast this way from the ground pulling on the mainsheet (yes I've done it while keeping shrouds clear during the raising)...

But you say it's keel stepped, not deck stepped? On a 23 footer? really?
10-08-2012 10:22 AM
farscape
Re: Stepping a mast on a J/24 (23 o'day pop top)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommays View Post
As and example on a J24 with 34'6" mast

On a J24 we use a 19'+ gin pole setup on deck stablized in a tripod fashion with 2 cables going aft and one on the bow

For lifting gear we setup and old boom vang with 3:1 purshase to be able to make the lift buy hand

The J24 requires about 3' of lift to get the mast off the step and clear of the hull so it can be let down and layed flat

When you are putting one back up you need the FULL 19' of lift if you going to have the bridle anywere near the balance point of the mast
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(I know this is an old thread but my post count doesn't let me PM tommays...)

Hello,

I've recently acquired a J/24 and I'm looking for info on how to step the mast w/o a crane. You posted a while back about using a gin pole for this job and I'm wondering if you could detail this a bit more for me. I'm having trouble picturing the part where the mast is lowered/raised through the deck.

Thanks,
04-19-2011 03:47 PM
JimsCAL Two year old thread, but tommays is still around here, so you may get a reply.
04-19-2011 01:31 PM
robertmurdoch
Mast Derrick

I was reading.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommays View Post
As and example on a J24 with 34'6" mast

In general there is nothing fast about doing a keel steped mast

My home made pole is in two sections to keep the lenth down to 12' when it is in transport
I would like to know more?

Hey there,

I just bought a Cal 28,

Can you tell me about the Mast Derrick that you use?

Did you build it from scratch? What does the mast weight?

Thanks

Love your blog..... went through the whole thing....

Rob
05-03-2009 08:07 AM
GoslingNY
Stepping and unstepping

Do a search on 'gin pole'. That's the way most trailed racing boats sub 30 ft raise and lower masts.

We can step the spar on a j80 in about5 minutes total.

If you can't find anything, pm me and I'll get you something.

Cheers,

MikeR
05-03-2009 03:05 AM
particlepood Oh ya came home from work and discovered my wife went ahead and got her kitchen anyway.
05-03-2009 03:01 AM
particlepood Hello everyone,
I want to give you all a belated thank you for all the opinions and possible solutions.
I pulled the old 23 pop top out today and set about doing a dry run at rigging her. After a couple of attempts at muscling mast in place with my son we quickly came to the conclusion it wasn't going to work without trashing something. Believe it or not we pulled up beside the house (thankfully we a single story ranch) and I hoisted the masthead using the mainsheet while my son guided it up to me. When we had enough clearance I lowered the mast while he guided it into place.
While this worked it still wasn't easy. One thing is for sure the furler is as good as gone as soon as I can have a forestay set up.
Cheers and good sailing this summer,
PP
01-11-2009 12:31 AM
shadypark Thanks CrazyRu. I have been digging around for this information and your link was exactly what i was looking for.
10-20-2008 01:00 PM
tommays As and example on a J24 with 34'6" mast

On a J24 we use a 19'+ gin pole setup on deck stablized in a tripod fashion with 2 cables going aft and one on the bow

For lifting gear we setup and old boom vang with 3:1 purshase to be able to make the lift buy hand

The J24 requires about 3' of lift to get the mast off the step and clear of the hull so it can be let down and layed flat

When you are putting one back up you need the FULL 19' of lift if you going to have the bridle anywere near the balance point of the mast

I would think with your cabin it may be more like 5' to get the mast clear of the hull


In general there is nothing fast about doing a keel steped mast

My home made pole is in two sections to keep the lenth down to 12' when it is in transport
10-20-2008 11:38 AM
VASailor10 Yeah I thought the same thing. However, it is not the weight of the mast that makes it difficult but the length. It is hard for a 6 foot man to weild a 50pound 30 foot pole. I don't know maybe my mast step makes it more difficult. It would be alot easier if I just simply had a hole to put the mast into.

-Spencer
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