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02-18-2006 08:39 AM
Sailormon6 I agree that you should look for a boat that has seats, so that you can sit down in the boat. When you sail a Laser, you sit on the gunnels (the sides) and your feet are in a well. When you sail it, you're constantly leaning back and forth over the water, balancing the boat with your body weight, and your butt is constantly wet. It's very much like doing sit-ups, and is not relaxing. The Laser is strictly a one-person boat. It's great fun if you're into racing, but I get the impression that you are interested in a more varied sailing experience. A boat that has seats, so that you can sit down, inside the boat, is a better choice for you. It will have more space inside, so you can carry an extra passenger or two, and a small cooler, and perhaps fishing gear, and it will be more stable. The boom will be a little higher, so you won't have to lean down so far to let the boom cross over when you tack the boat.
02-18-2006 07:11 AM
chrondi Precisely ... the problem of dinghies with a jib is that they need a crew of two! That is the reason sailing schools do not use them for starter level learning purposes. The mainsail + headsail dinghy is for racing by intermediate to advanced sailors who have formed a team of two.
03-20-2005 05:15 PM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning

My advice comes only as someone who learned to sail in a dinghy. One point that I don''t see mentioned here is the Laser''s lack of a jib. I think it might be better to learn on a boat that has one, as understanding the slot - how the jib and main work together - will be a good thing as you work your way up the sailing hierarchy. One thing is for sure, dinghies are unforgiving and that is exactly what you need to learn on. You will capsize - probably a lot at first - and that is just part of the learning process. Learn how to quickly right your boat, and the cold waters of Tokyo Bay will be enough incentive to figure out how to minimize that event. Good luck and have fun.
03-17-2005 06:35 AM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning

Dear friend,
the thread you started has disintegrated into a hot discussion about the suitability of dinghy class racing for learning to sail or about the fastest boat around - entirely useless stuff to you. Listen to my personal experience: Thirty (YES 30!) or so years ago, while on my sailing learning curve, I learned and sailed and had fun AND capsized on a LASER single handler. It was very, very useful, simple, cheap and handy, most dinghy sailing schools/clubs having this class of boat at your disposal. I would surely sail again one of these "toys" now in my fifties, given the right wind and sailing ground conditions.
03-08-2005 03:47 PM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning


You might try driving around to the marina and talking to the clubs over there. There is nothing like the knowledge of local sailors. If you talk to a couple, you will learn much more than you will on this board.
I think the advice to find something that will surround you a bit better than the board-like Laser is good. And you could even find a suitable boat for sale, or an ad for one while you''re there.

Good Luck
03-08-2005 02:08 AM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning

Thanks Simaril.

I am going to follow your advise.

03-07-2005 05:01 PM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning

Thanks for the links!
03-07-2005 12:49 PM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning


If sailboats are scarce I guess you need to look at what''s available and choose what might be best suited to your needs.

There does seem to be some sailing activity going on in and around tokyo, as these websites seem to indicate:

And there are several one design class associations there in Japan, apparently:

Good luck in your search. There''s got to be some sailors out there in the land of the rising sun.

03-07-2005 10:52 AM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning


The Snipe is a really fun boat. I have never raced one, but have done some harbor sailing on one. They are a little wet, but that is half the fun for an 11yo. They also have a good international following, and you should be able to squeeze a race or two in with your son. They move along nicely, and you can have fun racing without the need to worry about spinn. gear. A great boat to get your feet (and the rest of you in a breeze) wet in dingy''s.

Now is a perfect time for father/son racing. I remember when I started sailing at 10 with my dad, we raced on weekends in our little Blue Jay. They are some of the most happy memories I have of my father (may he rest in peace).
03-07-2005 05:47 AM
Suitability of a Laser dinghy for learning

Silmaril, that''s a lot of experience.

Perhaps you can help me too.

My son is an Optimist sailor (11 Years old) and I have never sailed anything with less than 6000lbs.
I would like to have a not so difficult boat to sail with the kid down the river. Do you think a modern snipe is a good option? (there is one selling for a good price, it is an U.S. racing model).


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