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Topic Review (Newest First)
10-05-2012 10:42 AM
sokrates
Re: Tayana 55 1988/90 is she good for serious oceans crossing???

Do you think that ia the right boat to live in,we are a family of four.

Sokrates.
01-12-2011 04:21 PM
Yorksailor My wife and I have sailed our Tayana 55 over 12,000 miles in the last 3 years from Puerto Rico to Canada and back and then a Caribbean circumnavigation, most of the time without crew. We will probably take a couple of crew for the planned transatlantic in 2012 but that is still to be decided.

Worst weather was a F9 off New Jersey and I went to bed while my wife took her own single handed watch. The boat handled the 20 ft waves with ease.

We have a slab reefing main with 4 reefs but only 3 rigged and we usually are very conservative reefing early and rarely fly the 2000 sqft asymmetric. However, the only time the size of the boat is a real problem is docking nose or stern in without assistance on the dock, no rub rail to lay against the posts and a nice paint job. Especially since the bow thruster quit about 4 months ago

I am 62 and I might buy a roller furling main for my 70th birthday.

She is a fantastic live aboard but expensive to maintain, the quote for a new teak deck was $40,000 but we had the old teak removed and relayed, it was still 6-7mms thick, in Cartagena for $4,000. The deck and core beneath the teak was in perfect condition and we now have a functionally new teak deck.

However, it is easy to be seduced by the accommodation and no realize that she is not a boat for beginners, we have seen that happen and the boat was back on the market within 6 months.

We intend to keep and sail her until we are ready for assisted living.

Phil & Nell
03-07-2010 06:54 PM
tdw Laroobaa,

Last we heard from JohnnyMac was in August last year by which time he'd flicked the idea of the Tayana and was after a multi.

Welcome to the board btw.

One feature to assist you...click on the other persons name....it opens up a drop down menu giving info on the other member.

Cheers

td
03-07-2010 04:46 PM
Laroobaa
Tayana 55 purchase

Hi Johnnymac,
I hope that you went ahead with your proposed Tayana 55 purchase. We do not have electric winches on our Tayana 55 and have never had a problem managing the sails. Furling stay and headsail and just lazy jacks for the main.

We sail with 4 kids from 2 to 13 and naturally take a conservative approach. Value for money, speed, safety, quality of fitout - I have never seen any other design come close.

We will also be sailing Pacific this season. Let us know if you are around.
Guy
S.V. Laroobaa
06-09-2009 06:59 PM
johnnymac Orthomartin,thanks for the info regarding the Tayana 55.The amel super is a nice blue water yacht, but i don't want a ketch.The moody 54 is a very nice choose but is way out of my budget,this is way iam looking at the tayana 55.I know its 20 years old but thats my only deal,i have spoken to to at least two sailors and there must be a lot more out there that have had there dreams dashed after spending years and years getting there vessels ready for life long cruising,top side paint major refits engines ect, and the depression in the country and around the world has put a huge stop to that for some people. Its very sad.Hence forth there are some great deals out there for people like me on a real budget to get a great deal sad but true.
regards johnny
06-08-2009 11:34 PM
orthomartin
Tayana 55

I know the later 55s are really 58s but the "55" was placed for some import tax reasons. A guy named Milles Poor at Nanny Cay tortola is a 55 expert as he owns one and has done several refits with his company there. He is full time at Nanny Cay (sorry I don't have his email handy)
I sail a Moody 46, have gone from lk mi to the Caribbean last year and am in the Med now. I have looked a lot at slightly larger boats and the one I like best so far (and I really like the Tayana) is the Amel Super Maramu. Very safe ketch, true watertight fore and aft bulkheads, very easy with one or two people, and company support like no other in the world at this point in time. Not the best looking but built to take heavy water, stay dry in cockpit and below, and systems tested and re-tested. Very few Amel owners buy anything other than another Amel. Just my thoughts, good luck
06-08-2009 06:07 PM
svsirius Jeff

I beleive 32,000 as I took it off multiple travellifts over the years.

Only comment on even bigger is a few years ago we were headed south in the fall and waiting on a window off Old Point Comfort. Also waiting was a Tayana 58. They left a day before us on a front and actually left before the front had fully passed. They did a straight shot to Miami and had the northerly push them the whole way. 3 total crew [husband, wife, friend]- fully mechanized boat.

Now they were all experienced, but when we traded emails said it was a little bouncy for the first 24 hrs then great ride. We left a day later, it was still bouncy by our standards 25-30 knots, 8-10 ft out of the northwest...I'm sure it was worse a day earlier. We had a great ride to Charleston but ran out of air before we got there. If we had left earlier could have made it all the way on one tack. FWIW we did not push the boat at all and were comfortable with a #3 and a reef in the main. In fact as the wind died and came aft we let out the reef and added the staysail.

Difference was they are over 50' WL length we are 40. It's the delta between 7-8 knots avg and 10+.
06-08-2009 06:07 PM
johnnymac Hi Jeff.Sailing to me is a wild adventure, and some times right on the edge.I have been going to sea from a very early age,in all sort of vessels thats the Tasman sea.Its just sailing and pulling ropes, the longer the water line for me personally is the best, the longer you are out there in a dangerous ocean well you know, A 55 foot yacht can be easily handled by your self with some good quality electric winches and if they break well bad luck,Dont be out there if you can't handle it,when small problems occur.thats my look at it any way Jeff.
06-08-2009 05:14 PM
Jeff_H Jon,

I think that you and I are essentially in agreement. Depending on whose published figures you believe, the Moody at roughly 26,400 to 32,000 lbs is roughly 55% to 2/3's of the weight of the Tayana 55. This is an enormous jump in displacement for a small increase in crew. It means that the loads will more than double and the cost of ownership will also more than double. You report that you have much more comfortable passages than smaller boats, but I have to question whether the extra length (from something more moderate at 47 feet to 56 feet) will add to the comfort of the crew when you consider all the factors.

And while you are right that with modern machinery, a small crew can set and fly some very big sails and handle a very big boat, a boat like the Tayana 55 in question was not built with this equipment, but also, this kind of equipment has the habit of failing in the most inopportune times, as in mid-cyclone. Adding to this issue is the remote areas that Johnny is proposing to take this boat.

Jeff
06-08-2009 04:49 PM
svsirius
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Johnny

While I've never been a proponent of buying a short boat and then trying to pile a huge amount of displacement on it, I also am not a proponent of pushing the displacement per person too high and 16,000 lbs per seaman is really an enormous amount of displacement per person.

Jeff
Jeff

We have owned Sirius which displaces 32,000 lbs give or take loaded for over 9 years. In that time we have sailed her at least 15,000 miles [most of which in the 2 1/2 years we were cruising]. While docking requires both of us on deck and being very aware of all the factors we have cruised with a crew of 2for 90% of those miles. If you have at least an electric halyard winch, good windlass, and oversize sheet winches there is no reason not to sail a bigger boat from a crew standpoint if you have the skills. All this conversation is moot if you can't afford the $$ that these boats cost. We truly appreciate the comfort the extra size brings and can't count the number of times we pulled into an anchorage either significantly ahead of boats that left with us or upon arrival and comparing notes of our experiences out there.. we thought it was great.. they were a little beat up.
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