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06-22-2009 02:15 PM
jephotog
Quote:
Originally Posted by timebandit View Post
I'm guesing you bought the 27 cat?
I am trying not to, but it really wants me to buy it. My fiance is also game for it. We are getting married in August so that entire month is out for working on the boat.

It needs some hull work (one impact ding) and re-bedding of all hardware. Deck feels solid but I am going to buy a moisture reader to make sure what I am getting into as far as core moisture. We are also looking at a bunch of other boats in the same range. Most have been sitting for a while on trailer so i figure they will all need re-bedding of hardware. The C27 just has a whole lot more hardware needing rebedding.

The boat is on a trailer but it is too heavy for my truck. We have no room for it at home, the home is a rental anyways so putting a boat there would not go over very well. I started describing the boat here but figured it would be better to post another thread if I was going to hijack myself, look for it in the boat choosing forum.

I work in transportation and am out of town more often than in town. My work is only 10 minutes from the marina and 25 minutes from home, so I could head there after work each day for a couple of hours of projects and days off. My other option is someone who's boat I race on has a shop in town where he said I could work on the boat, not sure where but I imagine 10 minutes from home. I would like to get the hardware re-bedded and the boat in the water ASAP.

PS one of the other boats available is a Mac 25, we still need to look at do you cruise the Socal coast in yours, been out to the islands?
06-22-2009 01:30 PM
timebandit I'm guesing you bought the 27 cat?

It has no battery and is at a dock with no power?

How many miles between you and the boat?

Is it trailable?

Best you take it home where all your tools are and you know where to get stuff and you can get more work done insted of spending alot of time travling. You will also have the mast down so you can install the lights.

Deck rebeding takes just a few tools.
06-22-2009 12:51 PM
jephotog
Bought the tool kit

As K1SVK was astute to point out, my upcoming boat is going to need a bit of a restoration or at least deck re-bedding, possible a lot more. So I am gearing up for a project and was wondering what all I was going to need. I was hoping for support for buying the Dewalt package here but you all are too practical. I have been hanging out on woodworking forums and you are never discouraged from buying more tools there. I should have asked the guy with the Triton project, I counted 6 drills, 3 routers, 4 sanders, and counting.

I have a cordless screw driver but it is in my "other" home, and I needed one here, I also wanted a cordless circular saw, so the Rotary tool is just a nice extra, I do not see needing a sawzall on board, so will sell that tool. I thought the package was like one of the $600 ones I had looked at in the past but it was only a $450 package still $90 less than Amazon's price, I could not pass it up. I like using hand tools but not when it comes to sanding or cutting or grinding or sanding.

I had a good set of mechanics tools, and thought they were destroyed by Hurricane Katrina. So I bought one of the big Craftsman kits to get me back on my feet. When I returned to New Orleans I found my tools a little rusty and worse for wear but still there. So I have at least two sets of tools and one already adjusted for a salty environment. I should be able to put together a boat kit without much investment, just needed a list of what to include.
06-22-2009 12:12 PM
timebandit Before there were power tools there were hand tools.

Hand tools work every where even under water at the equator with no wind.

Unless you are going to work on everyones boat and do every thing marine just bring the tools you need from home and the ones you think you will NEED to matain your boat buy to keep on board.

Sears has good tools that you can buy on Sunday and they will replace broken ones for free(they will not, however, replace ones that refuse to float or get lost)and you can buy just the ones you need. I think you can now buy the Craftsman line at Target but I dont think they have as big a selection of individual tools.
06-21-2009 06:25 PM
hellosailor Ryobi apparently is a Chinese product sourced exclusively through Home Depot.

Some years ago I called them because the trigger switch in a cosumer-grade drill broke. Cheap 79c dual-pole dual-action sliding switch to make it go forward/reverse, the kind of thing you can pick up anywhere. Except--Ryobi uses a custom switch, no standard product replaces it. And Ryobi DOESN'T SELL PARTS so I couldn't even buy a genuine one for repair.

Now, I do give them credit because after a couple of phone calls explaining how ridiculous it was to throw away a drill set for a 79 cent switch, they actually sent a new set. Not that these are terribly expensive, and it was a generous thing for them to do. (And the ONLY way they could "fix" the drill!)

But I also have no interest in Ryobi anything, at any price, in the future. DeWalt is, or at least was, way better built. More expensive, yes, but better built and parts are, or at least were, sold the same way that all US power tool companies sold replacement parts.

Unless things have changesd, Ryobi also only sold "consumer" grade drills, nothing that can put out the speed and torque that DeWalt, Milwaukee, and the other "contractor grade" companies did.

But buying a home power tool construction set for a small sailboat? Uhuh, I'd buy one good drill and a good set of screwdrivers, wrenches, and pliers. It is a rare day that you need a Sawzall or other power saw on a boat. A Dremel is way more valuable.
06-21-2009 11:49 AM
sailingdog I bought a Bosch four-piece kit, that came with the circular saw, sawzall, hammer drill, worklight and a free jigsaw. This kit has been worth its weight in gold for all the different projects I've done on the boat with it. I also have a "Dremel" tool clone and a good Hitachi random orbital disc sander that are well worth owning.

The most recent addition to my power tool kit is a fein multimaster. It is a very versatile tool and often allows me to take shortcuts that I wouldn't be able to get away with otherwise.
06-21-2009 11:44 AM
k1vsk
The Perfect and Cheapest Tool set

Now that I have "your attention", your stated purpose is confusing - at one point you said onboard maintenance; elsewhere it is refurbishing. Seems more likely you'll need basic engine, plumbing and electrical tools for general boat work.
06-21-2009 11:31 AM
jephotog
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Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
if you generally have the marina do the work on your boat, it will be expensive and of little use to you.
No chance there, I can barely afford the boat I am about to buy, let alone having the yard do the work. I am not sure there is even a sailboat yard here in Utah. I will look at the lists, I am sure I have at least one of everything needed. I just would rather have a dedicated set onboard.

I have been wanting a cordless trim saw for a while to break down sheet goods at the lumber yard, for easier transportation. I usually design my project before going to the yard and have them cut the wood to general size and finish up the edge on a table saw at home.

As far as Ryobi vs Dewalt, I have had issues with a bunch of Dewalt corded tools that I bought a decade or so ago, but have had nothing but good results when i got them fixed. Ryobi on the other hand failed on me very quickly. I was part of a flip this house project on a budget. We bought a Ryobi set that was unable to cut well after the first day of use. I swore never to buy Ryobi again.
06-21-2009 07:55 AM
sailingdog See my post on a sailor's tool kit here. Mind you, this tool kit is for being able to repair, maintain and modify a sailboat, and if you generally have the marina do the work on your boat, it will be expensive and of little use to you.
06-21-2009 06:51 AM
preservedkillick I'd suggest not buying tools up front, let the project dictate the tools you need, then buy them as the need arises. That dewalt set looks great for light carpentry, unless you're getting into some major demolition work on the boat, many many of the tools in that set won't be that useful. Except for the drill.

If you are planning on significant work, this is a good read:
Pearson Triton #381 Glissando | Tools Used During the Project
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