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05-10-2012 09:47 AM
denverd0n
Re: GPS USB connector to VHF

Yes, getting something like this to work is not especially difficult, or expensive, but there are no "plug and play" solutions. You either need some intermediate device, or you need to do some cutting and rewiring of plugs. In addition, farmerboy, you started with a device that directly outputs a serial, NMEA 0183 signal. It would not have been anywhere NEAR that easy if you had started with a BR-353 that uses a USB connection.
05-09-2012 03:07 PM
farmerboy
Re: GPS USB connector to VHF

I know this is an old thread but just like to add that I bought a BR-355 and connected it to my VHF DSC radio and my NASA AIS radar and both work fine... I used an old Nokia car phone charger for the power supply (6V).
USGlobalsat Corporate
.... just cut the plug off and used bare wires... there is some info and a pinout on the USglobalsat forum...

ps cost £25 total...
07-18-2009 09:46 PM
macsailor
thanks !

I like the idea of the standalone Garmin GPS17. I see this model is discontinued but new ones are still available on Ebay for $175. It is more than the USB "puck" types but it is a much better more reliable unit I guess. It would work as a backup GPS system as well.
Bob
07-17-2009 02:14 PM
ottos
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Yes, but those devices go from an RS-232 DEVICE TO USB HOST, which is not what is required in this situation—which is USB DEVICE to RS-232 HOST. Also, I'd point out that those devices require a DEVICE DRIVER to be recognized by the computer properly.... something which isn't an option with either the VHF or the GPS.
You're right, of course. And based on the little bit I read today - even if they were compatible at the Physical and Data Link levels, you'd need something to translate the higher level protocol to the NMEA sentences. There is some interesting information here Peter Bennett's GPS and NMEA Site although some looks older.
07-17-2009 01:37 PM
sailingdog Yes, the NMEA IN + wire from the VHF should connect to one pin (3 IIRC) and the NMEA OUT + wire from the VHF should connect to pin 2. The NMEA IN - and OUT - wires should connect to Pin 5.

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Originally Posted by macsailor View Post
I also have my old Map76, it has a cable with an small connector on the end, DB9 (?). What you are saying is this cable should plug into the the Map76Cx and provide the signal required for the VHF.
It is too bad someone does not produce a GPS puck for this application, it could sit near the VHF and be a dedicated GPS just for this purpose.

thanks again, Bob
07-17-2009 01:34 PM
sailingdog I'd point out that Garmin, Raymarine, and several other vendors make standalone GPS antenna that output NMEA 0183 data. The Garmin GPS17 is one of them. The Raymarine RayStar 125 is another.
07-17-2009 10:24 AM
sailortjk1
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Originally Posted by macsailor View Post
It is too bad someone does not produce a GPS puck for this application, it could sit near the VHF and be a dedicated GPS just for this purpose.

thanks again, Bob
I have no idea about the tech stuff like the Dog does, but what I do know is that I use a puck style USB/GPS with software on a laptop. The USB/GPS is powered by the laptop computer. I'm not sure how you would power up the GPS in the scenerio you describe. Would you somehow power it via the VHF? or perhaps run a seperate power supply? Not sure how that would work. Some others might have better explanations for you.
07-17-2009 08:27 AM
macsailor
thanks for the information

I also have my old Map76, it has a cable with an small connector on the end, DB9 (?). What you are saying is this cable should plug into the the Map76Cx and provide the signal required for the VHF.
It is too bad someone does not produce a GPS puck for this application, it could sit near the VHF and be a dedicated GPS just for this purpose.

thanks again, Bob
07-17-2009 01:48 AM
sailingdog Yes, but those devices go from an RS-232 DEVICE TO USB HOST, which is not what is required in this situation—which is USB DEVICE to RS-232 HOST. Also, I'd point out that those devices require a DEVICE DRIVER to be recognized by the computer properly.... something which isn't an option with either the VHF or the GPS.

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Originally Posted by ottos View Post
I don't have any experience with NMEA, but I do know for a fact (and use professionally) a USB - serial data converter which is not much more than a cable. Some electronics are built into one of the molded connectors. That said, YMMV
07-16-2009 03:22 PM
ottos
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Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
You can't connect a USB based GPS to an NMEA 0183 device like a Ray55 VHF. NMEA 0183 is based on either a RS-422 or RS-232 serial protocol, with a data rate of 4800 baud, 8 bits, 1 stop bit and No parity. USB is a high speed serial protocol and is not compatible with either RS-422 or RS-232.
I don't have any experience with NMEA, but I do know for a fact (and use professionally) a USB - serial data converter which is not much more than a cable. Some electronics are built into one of the molded connectors. That said, YMMV
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