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|08-03-2009 07:37 PM|
Over on AS, somebody else was asking a similar question. His 4-year-old Mylar genny is falling apart and he's looking for recommendations for a racing sail material that'll last a bit longer. Here were my comments:
Thing is: Traditionally, you get either low-tech, high-resistance-to-everything fabrics that tend to lose shape, or high-tech, low-resistance-to-abuse materials that don't stretch (much), but tend to give up catastrophically after a few short years.
It is my understanding that most racers expect to have to replace their high-tech sails after only 4-5 years of use, at most. Whereas our 33-year-old polyester sails, while certainly not an optimum shape anymore, are still perfectly serviceable.
That being said: If racing is your primary activity, it looks like Vectran may be your best bet. I bet it's spendy, too . Perhaps Kevlar? I read a lot of good things about Pentex, a couple years ago.
We keep the original sails on the boat for cruising, and only put on the racing sails when we're going to be racing. It's a hassle, but, this way, our racing sails ought to last a good, long time. Also: None of our sails ever get put away wet--or even damp. In fact: Last week our Mylar #1 got stashed below, spread out on a settee, because the grass was damp when we got back from our last race, so we couldn't flake and fold it. (Took care of that yesterday.) Even the old cruising sails... One time last season a friend and I spent about an hour, waving one of the headsails in the wind, waiting for it to dry, so it could be flaked, folded and stored for the season. (It had gotten wet while lashed to the deck, coming in, and the wind was too strong to simply hoist it at the dock.)
|08-03-2009 07:20 PM|
Main is different than Genny for Sail Life
|08-03-2009 07:04 PM|
Originally Posted by Gary M View Post
|08-03-2009 07:00 PM|
I believe D4 is an independent sail cloth company that will mold panels as per a sail makers directions and then ship the panels to them for assembly.
Therefore several sail makers use their product, I think they are located in Oz..
|08-03-2009 06:42 PM|
Originally Posted by Gary M View Post
|08-03-2009 06:41 PM|
Originally Posted by slippery View Post
I just spoke with the UK Halsey guy for quite a while. He explained why his sails are excellent as well, without knocking the 3DLs. He did express the opinion that his sails are as strong as the 3DLs but better laminated, so less prone to delamination and the mold issue mentioned above. He said that due to the way the 3DL has its yarns attached, that less pressure can be applied when laminating the layers, which causes slightly weaker lamination.
He offered to come sailing to check out my existing sails, take some photos and then make a recommendation! All things being roughly equal as far as the quality of the sails, this kind of effort really means something to me.
|08-03-2009 06:36 PM|
I sail with my local sailmaker fairly regulary and his D4 kevlar main is now 5 years old and still looks pretty darn good to me, and performs very well.
As I said earlier he takes good care of it but he is only now starting to consider replacing it. That boat probably does about 40-50 round the bouy races a year. No distance stuff.
5 very competative years is not bad.
|08-03-2009 06:14 PM|
Originally Posted by DrB View Post
you have to balance short term performance against cost and long term life.
The Doyle Stratus system is similar but i believe is more reliable.
|08-03-2009 03:35 PM|
And don't be sold on what the "pros" are using. There's a reason they have the sailmakers logo plastered all over the boat.
Do you think Earnheart really likes Budwiser? Or does he put the sticker on his car b/c Budwiser bought him the entire car?
|08-03-2009 03:31 PM|
Originally Posted by jarcher View Post
Also, you haven't mentioned you're price range? Retail on a technora 155 from Quantum was over $2300 for my 25 footer. But times are tough, and you can talk them into a discount pretty easily right now. Even more so in sept. oct.
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