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|09-04-2009 01:37 PM|
Do you have a lunch hook on board? A small anchor or grapple, or something you can use as one?
In BC you may find that your stern is tied ashore but your bow anchor is in 100++ feet of water, it is often a rather steep drop into the water from the shore.
So, if you anchor your bow, and then literally THROW something into the trees on the shore, just to "hold it steady" until you can row in and do better, that may be all the help you need.
With any kind of line, I'd rather take the line ashore and then run it BACK TO THE BOAT, so that I can cast off without going off deck again.
Just remember that trees often are not rooted as deeply or as well as you might think, if you are tying off to one, or around one, make sure it is going to stay put.
In a lot of those coves and anchorages, the water is dead calm (DEAD CALM) and mirror smooth if the wx is good, making the single-handing much safer and simpler. If the wx was up...that would be something else again.
|09-04-2009 12:53 PM|
Nice to hear you report back.. we've had a great summer in this part of the world.
Ending up with a strong beam-on wind or current is indeed the bane of stern tying. With experience in various places you'll get to know where that's likely or not likely to happen. Should such a situation occur, the safest approach in the event of the anchor letting go is to quickly free the sternline... your boat will swing away and in all likelihood the anchor will reset itself. (hopefully there's room to do this) Retrieve the shore line once your secure again.
|09-04-2009 04:34 AM|
I am back now from Desolation sound area (went a bit further too), and all went well. Did a fair amount of stern-tying, and followed the advice here ... made sure to take my time and it was not too hard although a lot of scrambling when single-handed. The main thing was just to pay attention to the wind/current -- I dropped the anchor so that the boat would naturally drift where I wanted it to be, the conditions held the boat where I wanted temporarily while I got the stern line secured.
Overall I'm not a big fan of the stern-tie. Several times after I got the whole thing setup the wind and/or current shifted so that they hit the boat on the beam, and this seemed to put a lot of strain on the anchor.
Held fine though. Biggest threat may have been that a bear sniffed and then played with my stern line one afternoon, funny little guy but I'm sure if he wanted to he could have severed the line!
|08-26-2009 07:48 PM|
The Strait of Georgia and beyond is also our cruising grounds. Stern ties are very commonplace, you would be hard pressed cruising here without performing these at regular intervals.
500' of line is not too much. The idea is that you loop it around something stout and bring the bitter end back to the boat. This way you can clear out fast in an emergency without losing your line, or quietly with less hassle.
I have the willing help of my 10 year old son to go in and take care of things when we arrive, but often I do it alone too. I would hesitate leaving the engine in gear while gone from the boat, but I have considered it now and then. Never had the guts though.
When there's very little swinging room or a bit of wind or nobody around to help, I drop the anchor, set it securely in reverse then pull up enough rode again to bring the boat out in the middle of the cove, almost straight on top of the anchor. She will now swing very little, but should not drag unless there's a lot of wind. Having all the line flaked out neatly prior to coming in, or stored on a stern hung drum is part of the drill.
Often the shore anchor (tree, old wire, rusted ring) will provide too much friction to row the line back out without pulling it through on shore. Again here it's a good idea to be neat and clean with your rope work: Flake it out in the dinghy with the right end coming out the top of the stack. Flaking it on shore will almost certainly catch it on barnacles, branches, oysterbeds, what not, when rowing back.
Be calm and careful, thinking it all through. We have seen (and personally been guilty of) many botched maneuvers with lots of shouting and noisy motor use, risking to suck lines in the prop or worse.
Polypro line will float and cost less, so it might be a good choice for the stern tie. Some of the better ones are also decent to work with, while the cheap, loosely braided stuff is a major PITA.
Good luck on your trip (which probably is well underway by now?)
|08-10-2009 02:25 PM|
Originally Posted by FishFinder View Post
I have a permanently mounted 500' sternline on a spool. You will find that this setup is very common on boats up here. It makes life a lot easier but is not a real necessity if you only do it once in a while. You should use floating line.
Have a good trip, Steve
|08-10-2009 01:01 PM|
My cruising area is often Adriatic where this situations are normal.
You have two general situations:
1) anchorage is empty - no problem, you have a lot of space and time to do it as you want (just be careful if you leave the boat with motor in reverse - you do not want to get your stern line in your propeller)
2) anchorage is not empty - no problem, you have a lot of people willing and (some of them) able to help if you approach them well.
This worked best for me when I was asking for assistance: Come alongside your potential neighbour and politely ask them what scope they have and where their anchor lies - as you do not want to foul their rode. By being concerned to their safety they would be willing to offer help (unless they are super yacht or power boat or empty)
What worked best for me to provide help:
- if somebody asked me where my anchor was
- if somebody asked me if I can help them as they are shorthanded (or unskilled or drunk)
- if the skipper sends a woman to swim ashore with rope in her hand (works better if she is good looking or if it looks like she would not make it)
- if it looks they would bump my boat unless I help them (very efficient, but reduces chances of invitation for a drink)
- if they try more then once and do not succeed
- if I see there is only one person aboard
- if I have a motor on my dinghy in the water and I am bored
- if they anchor close to me and I want to make sure they are tied well (and far enough from me) - so we do not start bumping to each other at 2am when the wind shifts
Final remark: Always check all the work performed by other people - you would be surprised, but someone looking as old salt may just enjoy hist first time on a boat alone while the skipper went to meet some friends. They might not know how to tie a knot or they tie it around a fragile little branch.
|08-10-2009 11:41 AM|
In the tighter places like Laura Cove (north end of Desolation Sound) simply anchor in the middle of the fairway and row the line ashore as eps suggested. Tie off and then return to your boat and take up the slack. When ready to depart simply slack the line, row ashore undo tie and recover the line. Most places in Desolation Sound you will be able to see where others have stern tied to trees as they show the use. Doesn't every boat cruise with at least one line 300 ft long?
A further suggestion to anchoring up in that area: use a trip line on your anchor. Those beautiful coves were commonly used for rafting logs and the bottoms often are littered with old cable and sunken logs. Squirrel Cove (for example) is one very beautiful spot with a very littered bottom.
Have a wonderful trip!
|08-10-2009 10:41 AM|
Normally the anchor is set at 1500 rpm.
The yelling by a couple during the anchoring process seems to be a maritime tradition.
|08-10-2009 09:02 AM|
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
BTW, anyone understand why some powerboats come into an anchorage, drop the hook, and then start hard reversing, ploughing up the bottom while husband and wife yell at each other, then retract said anchor and motor away? Is there some satanic manual out there advising this for getting the anchor to "set"?
|08-10-2009 12:00 AM|
In many stern tie situations there are other boats around. I would not be adverse to asking help. Help has been offered, and accepted, by me before.
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