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09-25-2009 04:27 PM
EO32
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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
That makes a lot of sense but why then are all packaged docklines sold with a loop (oops eye) in the end.
So they can charge more. I buy my docklines off a spool by the foot.
09-23-2009 03:09 AM
WheresTheBrakes I have two sets of lines ! (and a few more emergency spares )
I keep the stern and forward spring line connected to the dock, and the bow line comes with me, secured to the pulpit..

When I approach the dock, my first plan of action is to pick up the stern line, and drop it over the stern cleat, then continue forward until someone can get onto the dock and tie up the bow line, then slip the spring over a winch..

Worst case scenario (last night) I can't catch the stern line, and start drifting towards Jerry's boat, and start the "I'M GOING TO BAIL OUT IN 10-9-8-7-6 etc." countdown.. at which point the admiral is pointing away from or towards the dock...

Bailed out once last night.. did a "iron genny gibe" and caught the bow on the second try, grabbed the spring, and moved her into place..

Can't wait to see how this pans out on a 30+ boat !!
09-21-2009 11:11 PM
sarafinadh so... does anyone else have two sets of dock lines?

One for the home berth that has loops on both ends and is sized to correctly position the boat in her home berth on the cleats there, and another set with loops for the boat cleats (they don't change no matter where you are) and a bitter end that can be figure eighted and locked down with a final reverse set on what ever dock you are visiting.

Maybe this is just something I learned from Grandpa...
09-21-2009 10:58 PM
davidpm
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Originally Posted by n0w0rries View Post
With a knife
Actually that was my first answer too.
09-21-2009 10:57 PM
davidpm
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Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
How many times have you come into a strange marina and toss a line to the professional staff and see then put a line through the hole? Never I'll bet. Figure 8 both ends and you can release quickly with minimum effort if necessary. Only time I ever consider using the hole is when I'm at a base marina and will be leaving the boat for some time unattended.

That makes a lot of sense but why then are all packaged docklines sold with a loop (oops eye) in the end.
09-21-2009 06:54 PM
RealityCheck How many times have you come into a strange marina and toss a line to the professional staff and see then put a line through the hole? Never I'll bet. Figure 8 both ends and you can release quickly with minimum effort if necessary. Only time I ever consider using the hole is when I'm at a base marina and will be leaving the boat for some time unattended.
09-21-2009 06:11 PM
IslanderGuy I like that several people said something like "All the loops go onto the neighboring boat" I'd love to see two of you trying to raft up! hehe
09-21-2009 05:51 PM
Boasun Loops?? Loops?? would this be either the bight of the line or the eye of the line?

If I put the eye on the other boat's cleat, I would capture the horn with the eye and bring the standing part under the other horn. Also the cleat size have to match the size of your mooring line in order for it to work correctly...
I've seen to many teeny tiny cleats on boats... And I hate them!!!
09-21-2009 01:23 PM
MJBrown All the loops go onto the neighboring boat which gives me control over how tight they are as well as how quickly I can release them in an emergency. After getting caught rafted up and dragging anchor in a pop up storm I no longer dress the bitter ends and hang them up. Instead I lay them out so I can release them as fast as possible. But I do like the knife option too
Mike
09-21-2009 12:52 PM
tommays We allways take a full wrap on any cleat and then LOCK it IF you try and release a line under load without a wrap its real EASY to get your fingers caught in the line
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