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Topic Review (Newest First)
10-13-2009 08:01 PM
GaryHLucas A heater doesn't actually have to heat the boat much. What really makes it help is that it reduces the humidity. Humidty is more of problem than temperature in most cases.

Gary H. Lucas
10-13-2009 05:05 PM
Waltthesalt I second havig a heater on in the boat to keep the temp up and speed up curing. Venting will help.
10-13-2009 04:10 PM
tager Gelcoat fumes are truly terrible... they blew right through my respirator filter, and fuzzed my brain up. I am generally more sensitive to fumes than anyone else I know. I would suggest investing in a good $50 respirator, and some extra filters. Replace the filters regularly. Suggested once every workday. Now, with your respirator on, go in the boat and work out a ventilation system. It helps to pull all of cushions out and leave them in the sun for a few hours. Open all dorades, hatches etc, put on a few small fans (this is better than one large one) . In the future, use something a little less aggressive as an interior wood finish. I use none.
10-13-2009 03:36 PM
lowergard
varnish fume abatement

I am dealing with the same issue 4 months after the aft cabin was totally sanded out & revarnished in our Westsail 42.

The aft cabin air is tolerable during the day when the sea breeze is up but at night the air can go still.

Installing a fan in the forward hatch allows air to be drawn in thru the portlights continuously when there is no breeze maintaining a continuous sweep of fresh air into the boat and then exhausted.
07-28-2009 01:26 AM
zAr
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Originally Posted by JimMcGee View Post
Zar,

What brand and type of varnish did he use?

The good news is rigging a fan has a pretty good chance of drying the varnish, but you'll probably have to wash the cushions and carpet to get rid of the residual odor.

Don't even think about moving aboard if there is still a strong odor. Solvent fumes can make you VERY sick or even kill you in high enough concentrations. Long term exposure will definitely cause long term problems.

Jim
Hi Jim,

You're right, I think the ventilation idea is working a bit. The fumes aren't as strong now.

Here's what he used:

Antique Oil Finish - Specialty Products

I hope the "oil" in this stuff is linseed oil and not some sort of petroleum distillate.

Mind, I'm beginning to second guess whether it is varnish that I'm smelling. I've been sniffing the wood and while there is a general smell of linseed oil wafting through the boat, the wood itself only smells very slightly of linseed. I found this baffling.

However, today I was taking off the upholstery fabric covers and washing them. I sniffed them and immediately recognized the "fume" smell which has been driving me crazy - it's the plastic-like bottom of all the covers. Vinyl? Pleather?

I think I should start smoking so as to dull my olfactory senses.

zAr
07-25-2009 08:35 PM
zAr Wow, plenty of good suggestions here. I'm already putting many into practice and I think it's helping. Thank you everyone.
07-24-2009 05:24 PM
sailingdog Solar powered vent fans will help a lot.
07-23-2009 03:56 PM
pdqaltair
It could also be a wood preservative like Cuprinol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by baboon View Post
Varnish takes a long time to cure. The smell will go away, but it can take a long time. I wonder if part of the problem is the soft stuff in the boat like cushions, curtains etc. have ablsorbed some of the stench. Perhaps pulling all that out and ventilating it will help.
Creosote, bitumen paint and cuprinol wood treatment products

if it is a wooden boat. Some of this stuff is POWERFUL and takes 6 months to fade inside. It smells outside for months.
07-23-2009 02:04 PM
baboon Varnish takes a long time to cure. The smell will go away, but it can take a long time. I wonder if part of the problem is the soft stuff in the boat like cushions, curtains etc. have ablsorbed some of the stench. Perhaps pulling all that out and ventilating it will help.
07-23-2009 02:02 PM
JimMcGee
Lots of ventilation

Zar,
Varnish can be VERY slow drying, especially in humid conditions. If the boat is in a slip crack the forward hatch and rig some plastic or canvas to keep out rain. Rig a box fan in the companionway, also covered with canvas or plastic to keep out rain. Set the fan so it's blowing out the companionway and pulling air through the boat. Now go get a beer, some pizza, watch a movie and come back in 12 to 14 hours. That may be enough air movement through the cabin to dry it out (this assumes the boat is in a location where you're not worried about someone breaking in). .

That's the simple solution. There are lots of different varnish types. Some of the old ones have some nasty chemicals, and some when they get old and outdated won't dry properly - meaning you'll have to strip the varnish off to get rid of the smell, or seal it with a coat of shellac.

Depending on what he used and to what extent it did or didn't dry, stripping could be anything from wiping it with rags soaked in thinner to using chemical strippers.

What brand and type of varnish did he use?

The good news is rigging a fan has a pretty good chance of drying the varnish, but you'll probably have to wash the cushions and carpet to get rid of the residual odor.

Don't even think about moving aboard if there is still a strong odor. Solvent fumes can make you VERY sick or even kill you in high enough concentrations. Long term exposure will definitely cause long term problems.

Jim
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