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10-30-2009 06:00 PM
GreatWhite Your wife is game right now which is good!
You've got the money which is good!
You've got a little experience which is a good start!
You've got a dream which is good!

Don't blow it!!! Get a boat you can handle and know you can handle backed up with more experience.

When you start cruising...start in waters that you can build your experience without blowing it!!! Some waters are more challenging than others.
10-30-2009 09:24 AM
chris_gee There are a few crew finding sites eg Find a Boat, Yacht or Ship to Crew for.
Forget the railmeat idea. Unless the boat is racing and therefore has a full crew so your responsibility is minimal, the reality for cruisers is limited crew long watches fatigue and quite likely interpersonal tensions. It does however test whether being some days from land day after day freaks you out as it does many.
The competent crew thing is just the start, the higher levels are useful. I agree with the others the size of the boat has to be less an apartment than one your wife can sail alone if need be when you are disabled through illness or injury. Ongoing other crew is unlikely and probably undesirable as sharing a confined space for any time is difficult let alone with a stranger of uncertain capacity.
10-30-2009 07:33 AM
Yorksailor What you are missing is the little bit about becoming a competent sailor and seaman...many manage to do what you plan but most of them scare the hell out of themselves and the wife along the way... There are lots of single men sailing the world after the lady got off the boat...we had one on our boat for dinner last night.

As to size; we have a 55 with a 700 sq ft main, 1100 sq ft genoa and a 2000 sq ft spinnaker and when things go wrong she is a serious handful and that is with over 50,000 sea miles of experience aboard.

The problem is that it all looks easy in good conditions but when things go wrong in bad weather!!!
10-30-2009 07:21 AM
xort size is relative.
I read about family of 4, full time livaboard on sub 40' monohulls all the time.
Others need 100' for part time cruising.

We wanted a 45' for livaboard. Couldn't swing the cost so we bought a 42. Plenty of room for all our stuff.

Old adage: Buy the smallest boat you can be comfortable in.
Your charter on the 38 should give you a lot to consider. Enjoy the charter but also make time to "use" the boat as if you were living aboard. Might take some imagination to just sit and think of where things would go and how you would use the boat longer term.

We went from a 26' power boat to our 42' sailboat. Really not too big a deal.
10-29-2009 11:05 PM
yellowwducky Correct, 38 is a charter. I realize a a 48 or 55 would be quite large but anyone buying a cat is looking at 38 as a minimum pretty much. I am also thinking safety here - would you rather be in the middle of the Pacific in a 38 foot boat or a 48 foot boat? I don't know about the rest of you but bigger is better to my mind here. I wouldn't have crew but I don't see myself not sailing or putting up a main - thats just nuts.

I agree, a 55 though is really getting up there; but anything 45-48 is kinda what to me looks like the minimum that would be liveable without feeling like being in a cramped little trailer.
10-29-2009 09:54 PM
tager I would do it, sounds fun. Biggest issue seems to be getting the wife on the bandwagon.
10-29-2009 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by xort View Post
3) my wife and I will be doing down for a week in December to take out our own boat - a 38 foot Lagoon catamaran

If you own a 38, how is jumping to a 45 such a big deal?

I'm thinking the 38'er is a charter.....OP is in Hong Kong, Whitsundays are Great Barrier Reef islands.........
10-29-2009 09:15 PM
xort 3) my wife and I will be doing down for a week in December to take out our own boat - a 38 foot Lagoon catamaran

If you own a 38, how is jumping to a 45 such a big deal?
10-29-2009 09:13 PM
TQA Hmmmm

have been sailing a few times with friends and been crew for a couple Great Lakes races
and you are thinking of jumping up to 48 - 55 foot cat. On an Atlantic 55 the main is 933 square feet. That is a lot for two people to handle. The genoa is almost as big. OK if things are going well but if anything goes wrong you will find it pretty daunting.

Why so big? Do you intend to have crew? I am not trying to put you off but the loads on a big cat are scary and stuff breaks so you have to go and wrestle with things from time to time.

I have seen quite a few couples with bigger boats and it is noticeable that they often motor rather than sail and if they do sail they are strangely reluctant to raise the main.
10-29-2009 09:54 AM
yellowwducky I am wondering about finding out how to be rail meat for any crossing - heck, it would be fine for me to pay for a flight to say South Africa to do an Atlantic (for instance); the cost would just be 'prep' in my mind.
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