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03-10-2006 05:14 PM
PBzeer At the risk of sounding simple, might I remind everyone that a boat only has to please the person that owns one else.
03-10-2006 04:35 PM
Funny Stuff!

Haystack, '59 Buick, gotta pound, etc. You guys crack me up. Get off your arse and do some cruising.

I've met plenty of IP owners from Venezuela to the Bahamas and they all love them.

Just met an older couple, 69 now, that are getting ready to sell their IP 37 that they've had since new in 1989. They've done 85,000 miles in that boat and only ever had one structural problem (a broken original bobstay in the Southern Atlantic). It's been around and back and ready for more. In all that time, they've never had to check, tighten or replace a single keel bolt (aren't any).

Sailormon6--right on, brutha! The E Carib is nothing like the Cheasapeake or Lake Whatever. Open water, 15-30k winds, and an IP 40 sailing along nicely at 7-8+.

Keep beating off those lee shores and patting yourselves on the back lads.

S/V Eventyr
02-28-2006 11:25 AM
mikeronie Dennis:
Your correct about the IP38. I have an IP350 which is 35' on deck and 36'10" LOA.
Last October several members of my Yacht club were in one of the coves on Catalina island when a storm came up. Many of the boats on moorings had to be towed off. The engines on the sailboats which included a Catalina 42 and Catalina 30 a J105 did not have the power to get off the moorings. All of us could come up with situtations in which a paticular boat would not be idel.
I love my haystack
02-28-2006 10:55 AM
Originally Posted by Jim H
Come on, Denr, tell us what you really think!

So, basically you're saying that all those happy IP owners are completely deluded, and they're going to be sorry, sorry, sorry when the engine conks out in the crowded marina. They may be happy for years, the foolish victims, until the embarrassing tragedy strikes and they drift out of control with sails up and nothing happening. Woe, woe, woe.

Honestly, I'm not even interested in owning an IP, but I don't think FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) is any way to win an argument. In fact, I'm not even certain where the argument is in this matter.

And your supporting evidence of having your motor fail twice in a harbor or anchorage in as many years is an example of what? Impending embarrassment of IP owners, or the need to improve the maintence of your engine?
Have you ever had the wind back and pipe up smartly at your anchorage and then have to lift anchor and beat off a lee shore in a full keel heavy boat that goes to weather like a haystack?
I had my engine die on me one day while transiting a swing bridge. The screws that hold the alternater bracket broke, the alt, still hanging on by the adjustment braket, fell down onto my oil filter and put a hole in it.
In a short time the engine bled out its oil and the engine siezed! The bridge opperater, in his haste and with an out going tide and the wind in the same direction that would have pushed me right back into the bridge, started closing the bridge before I was clear. I was by myself and I had about a minute to set sail, which I did and then nervously sailed into the clear.
Now, I can get my Endeavour 32 almost to 40 degrees to weather. I wouldn't have made it with 50.
Things usually happen while under way.
Alot of fin keeled boats out there ride very nice at anchor.
I also don't care for the way the underbody flattens out between the turn of the bildge to the garboard area. It's gotta pound.
When you buy your Island Packet, In the off season, you can park it right next to your '59 Buick.

02-27-2006 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by mikeronie
It was a 1972 Ericson 32-2. While the IP is only 3 feet longer on deck the comfort factor is way up there.
Isn't the lod 38' on the IP38? The LOA is over 41'.

02-27-2006 11:40 AM
mikeronie Dennis:
It was a 1972 Ericson 32-2. While the IP is only 3 feet longer on deck the comfort factor is way up there.
02-26-2006 05:04 PM
windship mikeronie,
What was your other boat?

02-26-2006 02:44 PM
mikeronie Dennis:
I guess I did not make my message clear. The old boat would take the seas but as the crew got older the boat was working us too much. We were thinking of a trawler or the like but did not want to give up sailing. With our IP we found she sails very well except in light air. While she does not point as high as a racing boat I can get her to 50 degrees without loosing too much speed but can pinch to 45 in higher winds. as far as speed I have had her 8.8 knots in 25 knots true wind on a broad reach with minimal heal as compaired to our old boat. At that wind speed we only need to roll in our staysail.

We started liking IP when we chartered an IP38 on the Cheasapeak a few years ago. After going aground twice I learned to like the full keel.As you know any sail boat is a compermise. I recomend anyone wanting to purchase an IP to charter one or find someone who will take them out.
02-25-2006 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by mikeronie
Very interesting. Lets see I should have a very fast PHRF rated boat, a trawler and should stay away from an IP.

Well after sailing a faster boat for 15 years and getting beat up by the light weight boat in 4' to 6' seas and high winds we opted for an IP 350. Perfect boat for what we do sailing in the channel Islands of California. It's easy to handle with furling main, jib and staysail. It's not a bad ride in 35 knots wind and 8 to 10 foot seas (worst we have been in so far) It is true that I can't sail to my PHRF rating (171) in the light stuff but give me 15 knots I can. If I wanted a to win races I would have got a J boat or Shock.

Island Packet is builing a new boat that can be configured as a motorsailer. It should be out this summer.

Any boat built to sail salt water should be able to handle 8-10 foot seas and even more, so, respectfully, saying that really doesn't mean much.

02-25-2006 06:18 PM
windship I think that boats like the IP are built to cater to those sailors who believe that full keel is the only way to go.
If you are going to cruise islands and the coast, you will need a boat that goes to weather well.

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