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|01-31-2010 10:53 AM|
|Zanshin||Sailorgirl - I hope you realize that you just responded to a thread whose last post was over 3 years ago I prefer Columbier to anchoring outside of Gustavia because it is more sheltered and I don't want to pay the high fees for using the docks at the Promenade.|
|01-31-2010 08:55 AM|
which 40 ft plus monohull boat to buy
we have had a jeanneau 1999 sun oddessey 45.2 since new, bought sight unseen in carib for charter then imported to us for private use after 3 yrs. it is a fabulous boat, easy peasy to single hand, sails itself reallu and with crappy sails at that, can even get fun scary downhill with a big asym up, pretty stiff and wonderful to sail, and a gorgeous thing, however i would prefer a racer/cruiser for more speed and more high performance gear and taller rig to really scare myself, also offshore galley instead of charter linear type which can not be safely used offshore. also the u galley gives tremendous amt of more room in cabin - can find these and older ones, which are better built for cheap in the carib- same year 50' wins the cruising division in the transpac
having said this we are going to go to a 55 ft cat for the spaciousness as a winter liveaboard, NOT for sailing ability, we do not intend to go offshore except for delivery purposes.happy now going port to port
have always found sloops to be to rolly in most anchorages unless flat, any swell makes it uncomfortable. Forget St Barts in a sloop. hope this helps
|08-14-2006 02:19 PM|
I have owned four Catalinas over the years. They have all been new. I have had warranty issues before and Frank Butler himself called me. Catalina ownership is a pretty tight nitch group and has a very faithful following. You will be enrolled in Mainsheet which is a monthly to bi-monthly magazine which has tech notes, owner discussions, regattas, etc. You will be given the names and contacts of the people who head this up (boat owners, not Catalina employees) where you can email and call for questions, etc. The reason Catalina is so popular is simple: It is a good boat, solid built, and maintains a good resale value.
As far as the 42s go, it has been in production for such a long time becuase it has been so popular. You don't produce boats that don't sell. They have been written up as "classic plastic" by Cruising World and other magazines. The fact that it is still in production today is not a negative... but should be represented as a positive.
I chose a 400 over the 42 because I like the layout and nav better, but there is nothing wrong with the boat. As far as the hoses not being connected (I think that was you), that should have been done in the mfg plant and caught at the dealer. Every manufacturer, including bene and J and Valiant have bad days.
Also, if you are not getting a good representation and friendly following from a Catalina dealer... it is the wrong dealer. You just PM me and I will give you a great person(s) to talk to.
I am NOT a Catalina dealer and do NOT have anything to do with them. But they are great boats.
On the Bene and Jeauneau notes: They are good boats too. The only reason I did not/have not bought one of them is the way the galley is laid out and did not like the way their storage is laid out. I do think Beneteau in particulair is a very pretty boat on the inside (nicer than Catalina in general). Jeanueau is great too, but I never have really gotten into that whole Euro look.
This may sound crazy, but let me tell you a great way to decide on a boat... go sit on them. Sit on them for hours. Go down below. Sit in the salon, lay in the bed (if they will let you), look in the cabinets and imagine a household full of crap in there, stand in the head and imagine manuvering in it (and see if you can up it to a household size), lay back in the cockpit and lean against the seats. Does that hurt your back after a while? Crawl down in the lazarette. Do you have a comfortable Nav station? Can you comfortably watch TV (if that is your thing)? Can you comfortably hide away and relax with a good book? Can you install an Air conditioner? Gererator? Water maker? What will that do to your lazarette? WHat about your cabinets inside?
Those are some of my thoughts. Good luck in your search. It is a really exciting time, so have fun with it.
PS I have sailed a 42 and it is an awesome boat at sea.
|08-13-2006 03:50 PM|
I had a Catalina for 20 years. I looked at the 42 bur was not happy ith the layout or workmanship. Catalina is still using same tecnology ans style 15 years later. There are about 400 42s for sale so I dee no resale on this boat.Also no queensize berth and the 40 is so low you bang your head if you move.
Why not support the country that makes the better quality boat.
My wife loves the new Deck Salon 42. I actually hurt my head when I banged it on the Jenneau and my head made a dent in the Catalina
|08-13-2006 01:53 AM|
MDR... if you will only consider the 4 models you started this thread with...then I think you are right that the Jeanneau is the best overall choice...but I like the Catalina interior better myself. How does your wife vote? How do you feel about supportig the French??
|08-12-2006 11:12 PM|
Could someone help me decide
I am also considering a Benneteau 423 to a Jenneau 42DS. What would you buy?
|04-05-2006 11:00 AM|
Re your Feb. 22 posting regarding, Catalina provides midship cleats as standard equipment on the 350. No sheet fouling problems with them, but the sheets do occasionally catch on the windlass.
I am in a marina with similar sized Junneaus and Beneteaus in the slips adjacent to my 350. Catalina's winches, blocks, sheets, traveler, etc., are all larger and more heavy duty than those makes.
|03-20-2006 10:45 PM|
|h20ski||ah, try the master importer in CT- heard thru the grapevine (other chat boards) that there might be a new Elan delaer in California soon.|
|03-20-2006 10:16 PM|
Originally Posted by MDRSAILMAN
If I may ask, is there a reason for a magic number of 41 ft? Many times boats of similar length overall are very different in fuctional size, longer does not necessarily mean 'better'. I would focus more on proposed use, and on waterline and displacement, although it is very difficult to learn accurate displacement numbers, as the published numbers are often 'design desplacement' or 'light displacement' which may be far off from the actual.
|03-20-2006 09:44 PM|
Sorry I was talking about the 41DS
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