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12-08-2009 08:54 PM
jp375 Good advice. The fixed keel on the Capri is a big concern, considering some lakes that I would use it on really aren't all that big, and likely the ramps are not the greatest. I think for budget reasons the o'day daysailer might be a good option, there are a few for sale around here. I'm still very interested in the Mariner, but just haven't had a chance to go look at it. Hopefully this next weekend.
12-04-2009 02:22 PM
hriehl1 If you are trailering in Minnesota, I'd avoid the fixed keel Capri. Shallow launch ramps and shallow lakes make a centerboard more practical.

Others have suggested 22 footers... yes they are "trailerable" but you'll quickly tire of rigging and launching for anything less than an overnight... too much work for a daysail. I've raised the mast on an O'Day 222 with one other guy and I'd only do that for a season, maybe a weekend but NEVER for a daysail.

Carefully consider your overnighting prospects. If daysailing is really the desire, then you can go to things like O'Day Daysailer (my mid-fifties wife and I can launch and retrieve in ten minutes), Flying Scot, Rhodes 19, etc. Cheap to buy, easy to trailer, fun to sail, spacious cockpit... just no cabin.
12-02-2009 05:51 PM
jp375
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Originally Posted by BubbleheadMd View Post
I got greedy. I bought a '69 Coronado 25 for my first boat. Hull, deck and standing rigging in great shape. Very few gelcoat cracks, no blisters, soft spots or delamination that I could find. Serviceable sails, 4-stroke 9.9 Honda outboard with about 100 hours on it. Fixed keel.

The reviews I read state that it's a solid, durable boat that is very forgiving to the novice, so I figured it'd be ok as a first boat and I'd be able to resist the urge to upgrade for longer.
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So what has your experience been? Have you been able to learn and practice well on the larger boat? I still really like this Mariner 2+2 for sale, but I'm thinking I probably should spend a bit less than $4500 now.
12-02-2009 10:31 AM
BubbleheadMd I got greedy. I bought a '69 Coronado 25 for my first boat. Hull, deck and standing rigging in great shape. Very few gelcoat cracks, no blisters, soft spots or delamination that I could find. Serviceable sails, 4-stroke 9.9 Honda outboard with about 100 hours on it. Fixed keel.

The reviews I read state that it's a solid, durable boat that is very forgiving to the novice, so I figured it'd be ok as a first boat and I'd be able to resist the urge to upgrade for longer.

And yes, with boats (as well as RV's and other items) age isn't the issue, it's how it was maintained that dictates price and whether or not you should run away. I've noticed that many people here are sailing some pretty old boats.
12-02-2009 07:58 AM
csaintg I bought an Oday Mariner 2 months ago. You are right, the prices are much higher where you are. Here in Wa. I would be looking at a full size boat 26+ ft. For $4000-$5000. Picked up my Mariner for $600, with trailer, and though it needs some tlc, that is what I wanted in a starter boat. It floats well, and has a full sail inventory. My son and I have taken it out, and even spent a night on the water. Best nights sleep I've had in years!
11-23-2009 12:22 PM
Ippa2 Was just reading this thread and i was in a similar situation this summer. I learned on a sunfish and a 14' Tanzer. This summer I went in on a 23' O'day with a friend. It was a slight adjustment, but the basics are the same. I had been looking for a 19' O'day, great day boat/trailerable and also accomodating for a night on the hook. I wouldn't go any smaller than the Mariner though, especially if you want the option of a night on the water. 19' to 23' I think would be good for you.

Good luck!
11-21-2009 09:18 PM
jp375 Still looking. Saw this today:
22' Chrysler Sailboat

Thoughts? I haven't read much about Chrysler boats, are they any good? 22 is getting a bit on the big side, but it looks like it has a nice cabin which is a big plus.
11-14-2009 08:52 PM
klem The best thing that you could do would be to talk the owner into a test sail along with a visual inspection. During the test sail, watch everything that is done, see whether it makes sense and try everything you feel comfortable doing. Unless the boat has been significantly modified, it was a relatively good design to start with.

In your inspection, really take your time and go over every inch of the boat. Some areas to pay particular attention to would be the condition of the rigging, sails, centerboard and pin, chainplates, and rudder. Bring a digital camera so that you can show the pictures to others and they can help. Depending on how you work, this process could take a few hours to go over the boat. Don't be afraid of crawling into every place accessible with a flashlight.
11-14-2009 05:55 PM
cb32863 JP - As a fellow MN beginning sailor I would be very interested in what you end up buying. I too took my ASA 101 this year, late September on Minnetonka. Joined a boat club so I think I will spend a little less than you in buying a boat but you will have the freedom of going where you want with it. I would look in to a trailer-sailor myself but I have a small car that has over 118K on it and can't quite swing the new vehicle yet. Good luck!
11-14-2009 04:05 PM
jp375 Well, after getting a bunch of pictures from the owners, I think the best boat of these three is the O'day. If I go take a look at it, what are some things I should look for?
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