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01-03-2010 07:58 PM
mdbee
Suggestion

Another suggestion, check out some more ads besides Craigslist. You can compare similar boats around the country to what you have found there.

The other sites will also have more information than what is found on Craigslist.

Try here on Sailnet, Sailing Texas etc.
01-03-2010 05:46 PM
deniseO30 I,m surprised no one actually addressed what kind of boat you should get. I'm Assuming your intelligent enough to buy something you feel you can repair and or restore but want advice on which boat would be right for your needs.

What kind of sailing are you planning to do? In my case everyone said "first boat should be smaller" I did get a hunter 23 which was a great LITTLE boat. I sold it in less then a year! I realized real quick a want a boat with the size and appointments needed to stay onboard. The Oday 30 I have now is great! but I've already got 5ft itist! My suggestion? get a boat 5-10ft bigger then you think you want!
01-03-2010 05:43 PM
pdqaltair
That has been my expereince.

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Originally Posted by canadianseamonkey View Post
Many insurance companies don't require a survey on boats 26' and smaller.
At 27' there was a survey.

Really, $500 for a survey on a first-boat - and most of us are not experienced at that time - is probably a very good use of money. I did not have my first 2 boats surveyed, but I am an engineer and gave them a very good investigation. On my 3rd boat, with 25 years of experience under my belt, I paid for the inspection.

Insurance is an act of social responsibility. Get a high deductible, but get it.
01-03-2010 05:00 PM
canadianseamonkey
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Originally Posted by nickmerc View Post
Even a cheap boat needs to be surveyed if you plan on getting insurence for it. I will not let anyone without insurance rent a slip in my marina.

One more thing to do is get rides on as many types of boats as you can. See which features you want, which ones you can live without, which boats feel good to you, do you prefer a tiller or a wheel, etc. If you are not in a rush, this will help you make a better decision.
Many insurance companies don't require a survey on boats 26' and smaller.
01-03-2010 04:45 PM
nickmerc Even a cheap boat needs to be surveyed if you plan on getting insurence for it. I will not let anyone without insurance rent a slip in my marina.

One more thing to do is get rides on as many types of boats as you can. See which features you want, which ones you can live without, which boats feel good to you, do you prefer a tiller or a wheel, etc. If you are not in a rush, this will help you make a better decision.
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01-03-2010 03:19 PM
pdqaltair
The odds are this will not be your last boat...

So make sure the engine, decks, and hull are sound, but figure that you will be learning sailing and fixing on her.

Don't worry about hull scrapes - you will be learning docking, and we have ALL goofed that up.

Don't worry over the interior too much. You will re-decorate and you most likely will be day sailing.

Don't worry too much over the rigging. On an older boat you will be fixing and changing anyway. Try to make it sail faster and easier. These will be good lessons for when you buy another boat. Even for non-racers, we ALL need to know how to get the most from our boats in tough weather.

Buy a sound boat, do some fix-up, and you will get back what you paid for her. But don't make a project of it; sail often! Don't fix every thing the first spring; you don't know her or your likes yet. Sail a season, first, fixing only the safety related and basic issues.
01-03-2010 03:01 PM
gr8trn Be sure to read Boat Inspection Trip Tips on this site for sure!
01-03-2010 02:58 PM
gr8trn $500 to $4,000 for the boats listed, not sure I would hire a survey for a $500 vessel??
I think you can read from this site many articles and threads that will give you a list of what to survey yourself for your first boat that is such a low $ investment. If you make a mistake, you learn and move on wiser and not that much poorer!
Greg
01-03-2010 11:15 AM
bljones Welcome aboard.

What is your real world, this-is-how-much-I-can-afford-to-spend-on-a-boat-this-year-TOTAL-without-getting-divorced/evicted/disowned?

Each of those boats will need some work. If you get lucky and find a boat that surveys well with no immediate trouble spots... you will still find some work to do to improve the boat. either way, the purchase price is only the price of admission.

Either the Cal or the Ericson would be my choice, and they are almost neck and neck. The Cal has more interior volume because of the flush deck design, but it is also a darker gloomier boat for the same reason.

I've never sailed either one, so I can't offer an opinion on their performance.


Since you have used the phrase "live aboard" in your opening post, I wouldn't even consider the catalina. Nice trailer boats, but not anyplace I would want to spend more than a weekend at a time.
01-03-2010 11:05 AM
canadianseamonkey Go see as many as you can, educate yourself on each make. Don't buy anything until you're researched the hell out of everything.

Catalinas are okay boats. Many out there to choose from. The main complaint that I've heard is that they tend to leak...stanchions, chain plates and at the rub rails.

Each boat will have its pros and cons. Don't fall in love too quickly Research, research, research.

Don't forget that this is your first boat and you many want to sell it within a few years to get something bigger. Good luck on your search.
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