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01-15-2010 09:13 AM
adamsaquatics
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Originally Posted by RAGTIMEDON View Post
I have a funny feeling most of the boats in Haiti are hauling chunks of broken concrete now. The Question Steve asked about Cat 30 - Anything is fun to sail!! But if you buy a Catalina there are those on this forum who will give you a lot of static! Personally I have never owned a Catalina or a Hunter, but have spent a lot of time on both. My favorite is O'Day (I owned a 28 for many years) but now have a big heavy slug for comfort. I would probably have kept the O'Day 28 but the inside headroom was only 5-10 and my wife is 6-0 and I am 6-6. When we were in our 20's this was no problem, but 60 year old backs and necks cannot take the strain of constant crouching. To the question of affordability, I sold my 28 for 14K 6 years ago when the market was good, and she was in great shape. In today's market, you should be able to find an equal boat for 10-12. If you can find a satisfactory fresh water boat, you will avoid the spar and rigging corrosion problems inherent in salt water. My boat would have serious problems if it were in salt water. The 37 Endeavour has a keel stepped mast, which other threads on this forum say (rightfully so) will always leak. Salt water in the bilge will attack the aluminum fuel tank and aluminum water tank, both of which are in the bilge. I had a friend who had an Endeavour 42 who had fuel in his water supply and water in his fuel tank because of this.
First....I hope everybody has dug through their pockets to help out our friends in Haiti. I wanted to go down and help but am presently over committed to other very pressing problems.

I am darn close to 6'6" myself. Now in my 50's, comfort has become a large issue. So I would listen closely to any advice that you gave about boats that are kind to giants.

I have a good budget right now, I could spend over 50. I have been a cabinet maker and can do various maintenance on a good, older boat. I am looking for a boat that tends to hold its value for a couple years.

I want to cruise around N and S America for a couple years.
01-14-2010 09:11 PM
mitiempo Keel stepped masts do leak - rainwater through the sheaves at the masthead. If they leak saltwater, presumably through the partners, maintenance has been poor. With a proper mast boot this should not happen.
01-14-2010 08:37 PM
RAGTIMEDON I have a funny feeling most of the boats in Haiti are hauling chunks of broken concrete now. The Question Steve asked about Cat 30 - Anything is fun to sail!! But if you buy a Catalina there are those on this forum who will give you a lot of static! Personally I have never owned a Catalina or a Hunter, but have spent a lot of time on both. My favorite is O'Day (I owned a 28 for many years) but now have a big heavy slug for comfort. I would probably have kept the O'Day 28 but the inside headroom was only 5-10 and my wife is 6-0 and I am 6-6. When we were in our 20's this was no problem, but 60 year old backs and necks cannot take the strain of constant crouching. To the question of affordability, I sold my 28 for 14K 6 years ago when the market was good, and she was in great shape. In today's market, you should be able to find an equal boat for 10-12. If you can find a satisfactory fresh water boat, you will avoid the spar and rigging corrosion problems inherent in salt water. My boat would have serious problems if it were in salt water. The 37 Endeavour has a keel stepped mast, which other threads on this forum say (rightfully so) will always leak. Salt water in the bilge will attack the aluminum fuel tank and aluminum water tank, both of which are in the bilge. I had a friend who had an Endeavour 42 who had fuel in his water supply and water in his fuel tank because of this.
01-14-2010 08:02 PM
adamsaquatics I am thinking there may be some really terrific bargains in Haiti right now.

I'm a shrewd investor who hardly ever had money.
01-13-2010 02:05 PM
mitiempo AKSteve
I think there are a lot of boats available that would do what you want to do. I agree with Jeff to a certain extent but there were both well built boats in the past just like there are now. One thing to look for in the basic construction is bulkheads that were solidly glassed in to the hull and not just bolted to the liner. This gives a much stronger structure with less hull twisting and movement. This also eliminates the early Catalina 30. I'd look at the Yankee 30, Allied, Alberg, CS, Seafarer, Tartan, Bristol, Ericson, Albin and Cape Dory as possibles.
01-13-2010 07:53 AM
secondsun There are ample boats out there for much less than you have saved up. And if you can live in a shack then you can live in a small boat.

I lived on a 25 foot hunter for 4 years in Michigan all the way to St. Thomas. The benefit of living on a small boat is you won't have any rent expense compared to an apartment. Infact there is a 36ft Cal for sale in Holland, Michigan for $7k right now and it's in pretty good condition. But I took the 12k a year I would have spent on rent and put it into the boat and my savings.

To make this dream a reality you might consider moving from Alaska. Keeping warm in a small boat in northern climates is tough. Besides trying to cruise the Bearing Sea in a small boat might not always be pleasant or safe. But if this is a dream that won't stop then do it now. Get the best boat you can for your money and go cruising. You can get experience by volunteering as crew at your local boat club. Unless ofcourse if they are ice boats.

Gl
01-12-2010 11:19 PM
AKsteve Bljones- thanks for the books, I will absolutely check those out.
01-12-2010 11:15 PM
AKsteve
Thanks

Thanks for the input everybody! The more I search the more I am finding that most of the boats that meet my requirements are in Florida or California. I am not planning on returning to Alaska, If I find my boat in Florida I will sail Florida to start. what are everyone's thoughts on Catalina 30's? They seem like a comfortable liveaboard and there are many on the market but are they any fun to sail?
01-12-2010 08:35 PM
jrd22 AK- first things first. Where exactly are you planning to do this coastal cruising while living aboard? It makes a big difference in the type of boat you should be looking for IMHO. If you are planning to live aboard and cruise the BC coast (Alaska to Seattle area) you might want to think about a pilothouse, or at least something you can put a full enclosure over the cockpit and still sail. You'll also need a reliable heat source (or two). If, on the other hand you are planning to return to CA, especially southern CA, you might want to concentrate on a completely different type of boat. Are you interested in racing at all, or are you thinking about offshore? These are all basic questions that you need to answer before looking at specific boats to buy. It's easy to buy a boat right now, hard to sell one so you want to get what will work for you the first time. I think you'll be able to find a decent boat for $12-15K, but do your homework first and figure out what is important to you. Good luck and keep us informed.
01-12-2010 08:10 PM
Waltthesalt You should be able to get what you want anywhere. Pick the area you intend to sail in. The West coast is more challenging to move boats out in the open water. At 30 ft you're getting a boat with headroom, and a more comfortable live aboard. At 27 ft you're not with a lot less interior space. you'll find uese Catalina 30's everywhere. It's also the standard for that size with room and a strong class association. In this market you should be able to get a boat that is in good condition and has the upgrades that you want. It's very expensive to do upgrading unless it's just sweat work. Avoid buying gear new. I keep a list of what gear I need and routinely cruise consignment places and swap meets. That's the only way I can afford what I do.
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