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01-17-2010 08:05 AM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by seabreeze_97 View Post
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Originally Posted by KeelHaulin View Post
Wait to find something in solid fiberglass. Glassed over plywood is not the best material for a monohull sailboat.
It's better than glass over balsa.
Seabreeze—

You must not know much about cored laminate construction.

Marine plywood is the worst of all the core materials. It is heavy, unlike balsa or foam core materials. It has the worst characteristics of both balsa and foam core materials. Like balsa, plywood will rot when exposed to water for an extended period of time. Like foam, it can allow water to migrate and delaminate relatively large areas of the hull or deck in a relatively short period of time.

As core materials go, end-grain balsa is one of the best. The problem with using it is that the boat builder and the owner must take care to prevent water intrusion in to the core. If that is done, a balsa cored laminate is one of the strongest and lightest you can get.

Keelhaulin's point is valid... but a properly designed cored laminate can make for a very nice boat, that is stiffer, lighter and stronger than solid glass would be.
01-17-2010 04:17 AM
seabreeze_97
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Originally Posted by KeelHaulin View Post
Wait to find something in solid fiberglass. Glassed over plywood is not the best material for a monohull sailboat.
It's better than glass over balsa.
01-16-2010 12:15 AM
paulk I might be tempted by the Atkinson, it being bigger and cruise-equipped with anchor roller, rod holders, and a comfy cockpit with easy water access. It is a LOT cheaper. The listing omits the build date (on purpose, perhaps?) and as you say, the construction looks reasonably well done, though not fancy. On the other hand, the girlfriend will need a door to the head - ESPECIALLY if you expect her to sail on a boat she can't stand up in down below. So... seems like your decision has been made for you. Maybe you can get them to come down a little on the price.
01-14-2010 10:15 PM
Marklumb My council would be to look at "Class" boats like a J-22, Lightning, etc. just for example.
Why?
Because they are popular and maintain resale value over time.
Because they have "Class Associations" for helpful advice and social benefits as well.


I know what you mean a well known boat is a good way to go - mind you in New Zealand where I live we dont have the same makers a atkinson is a pretty well knwon yacht over here i am just wanting a yacht that will be relatively easy to handle as my girlfriend has no experience in sailing and will be learning. I will mostly be cruising and once we get up to speed maybe try a few races.
01-14-2010 12:19 PM
canadianseamonkey Are you wanting to race or cruise?
01-14-2010 12:10 PM
KeelHaulin Wait to find something in solid fiberglass. Glassed over plywood is not the best material for a monohull sailboat.
01-14-2010 08:47 AM
Flybyknight
Before Buying, Look to Sell

With great respect, I do not like either for a first boat, and with experience,
you may find things not going as planned, and regret the inevitable unanticipated additional expenses.

My council would be to look at "Class" boats like a J-22, Lightning, etc. just for example.
Why?
Because they are popular and maintain resale value over time.
Because they have "Class Associations" for helpful advice and social benefits as well.

Good Luck with your purchase.

Dick
01-14-2010 04:22 AM
MARC2012 Don't think I have ever seen an orange boat before.You would never get lost.marc
01-13-2010 08:28 PM
Maverick1958 What type of sailing are you intending to do? Both scare me for any blue water.
01-13-2010 08:17 PM
tager I still like the orange one. Sad that it only comes with a 4hp engine though!
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