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04-02-2012 09:47 PM
mitiempo
Re: Perfect 35-38 foot 'go anywhere' boat

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Originally Posted by CapnBilll View Post
Good point, heavier doesn't mean slower we all have the same speed limit. It just means you have to carry more sail to go same speed at same wind speed, but...a heavier keel means you can.
Not exactly. Hull speed of a displacement boat is theoretical and can be exceeded if there is enough power to do so - either sail power or engine power. In lighter winds some boats can't reach hull speed because their sail area is too small for the conditions - this is common on some heavier designs. In heavier winds if they can't stand up to their sail area they may not achieve it either. This depends on stability, which comes from the keel as well as form stability of the hull. A wide flatter bottom will mean more stability before the angle of heel required for the keel to have much effect.

There are boats that sail well in a very narrow wind range. They do not move well in light air and can't stand up to the canvas needed in a blow.
04-02-2012 02:06 PM
CapnBilll
Re: Perfect 35-38 foot 'go anywhere' boat

Good point, heavier doesn't mean slower we all have the same speed limit. It just means you have to carry more sail to go same speed at same wind speed, but...a heavier keel means you can.
04-02-2012 12:40 AM
mitiempo
Re: Perfect 35-38 foot 'go anywhere' boat

The displacement numbers of the Tradewind are comparable to the Westsail and other boats of a similar type. Heavy equals comfortable.

But it is not fast. Speed on a displacement hull is nominally figured to be 1.34 x square root of its waterline length. This is the formula used on SailCalc. In other words any displacement hull with the same waterline length will have the same theoretical speed as the Tradewind - even a big old barge.

I am not saying it is a bad boat - more of a comfortable cruiser that has an easy motion and takes care of its occupants.
04-01-2012 11:53 PM
souljour2000
Re: Perfect 35-38 foot 'go anywhere' boat

I just met a couple who have a Tradewind 35...doesn't show up on sailprocalc..just the 33...which btw shows over a 45+ comfort factor rating...and 18,500 disp.at 33 feet long!...jeez! & 7.09 kts for speed on the 33-footer also...what do folks think of the tradewind I am wondering..sounds like a tiger tank ...heavy and fast...anyways..I like learning about lesser known boats...tradewind yachts were definitely off my radar ...until today...
04-01-2012 08:13 PM
CapnBilll
Re: Perfect 35-38 foot 'go anywhere' boat

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Originally Posted by Jeff_H View Post
You guys know that this is a 13 month old thread and that the last time the original poster posted here was nearly a year ago. But also the guy was asking for a boat that wasn't just a tank -- but also a good sailing boat so something like Vagabond Westwind, or Cape Dory 40 or Pan Oceanic's would not exactly have been what he was looking for. Then again, some of the boats on his list would not have been either.

Jeff
It's a good topic. Why not keep it going? I'm looking for a good ocean crosser in the 35-38ft range also.
04-01-2012 07:19 PM
DesertPirate
Re: Perfect 35-38 foot 'go anywhere' boat

I agree with the notion of not living out of the saloon. When one narrows one's boat choice down to boats with two dedicated sleeping cabins, the list becomes much smaller, at least for boats under 100K.
12-22-2011 03:24 AM
AliciaLavigne I am the owner of a Rafiki 37 and have sailed around the world once and a half and have rounded Cape Horn with her. I can highly recomend her as a true bluewater cruising boat. She has plenty of storage space, large tanks for water and diesel, and is very comfortable in a big sea. She also is fast(that is relitively speaking) with any wind aft of the beam. I averaged 138miles on a 38 day passage covering 5252miles with many days 160-170miles per day. Solid and seaworthy.
02-17-2011 05:21 PM
mitiempo But it's not an old thread anymore.
02-17-2011 05:06 PM
mitiempo The Cascade 36 is a lighter boat - almost 4000 lbs lighter than the Cape Dory 36. It has a spade rudder without any skeg. It could be interesting but because some were owner finished quality will vary.

From Sailboat Data:
02-17-2011 05:01 PM
Jeff_H You guys know that this is a 13 month old thread and that the last time the original poster posted here was nearly a year ago. But also the guy was asking for a boat that wasn't just a tank -- but also a good sailing boat so something like Vagabond Westwind, or Cape Dory 40 or Pan Oceanic's would not exactly have been what he was looking for. Then again, some of the boats on his list would not have been either.

Jeff
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