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04-29-2010 05:03 PM
sailingdog For what size/displacement boat??? If you're talking about the one shown in the photo in your previous post, no, probably not.

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Originally Posted by CascoBay View Post
Would a pendant breaking strength of 16,000 lbs be safe?
04-29-2010 03:33 PM
msg185
float attachment

Maine Sail, I was wondering how you attached the floats to your pendant line. Type of line and knots used? Thanks in advance.
02-12-2010 12:05 PM
CascoBay Would a pendant breaking strength of 16,000 lbs be safe?
01-30-2010 06:26 PM
CascoBay I hear ya- your setup looks great. I was trying to get the right sized shackle to do this and asked for their opinion when they told me the single Yale was the way to go. I do not recall the guys name, but hes been there for years and is one of the nicest guy there.

I'm with you though, I don't want to worry about the boat.

By the way- who is your mooring guy? I am going to need to have my setup dropped in this spring and certified. Any idea what the going rate is for this to be done?
01-30-2010 01:16 PM
Maine Sail
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Originally Posted by CascoBay View Post
Just went to Hamilton Marine and spoke with someone about the pendant situation.

They advised not to use 2 pendants due to chafe issues under the ball and the problem of the pendants wrapping themselves.

I understand there are solutions to these problems, but I trust their advice of a single 3/4" or 1" yale pendant, 20' in length. They flat out told me that with a Yale pendant there is really no need for redundancy of the lines.
Who did you talk to at Hamilton? That is of course an option, and Yale Pendants are tough, but I have seen far to many single pendants chafe through in my life to do that on my own vessel.

If installed correctly, with unequal lengths, you still only have ONE pendant at a time. If installed they way I showed above with lacing and toggle floats it will NOT do what the salesman at Hamilton told you it will. Mine have been done this way now for over 12 years, never one tangle, wrap or chafing issue and I have survived many a Nor'Easter including the Patriots Day storm. I replace my pendants every three years and have never seen any chafe below the ball.

I would tend to agree with the sales person IF you are using equal length pendants. With unequal lengths the "new" or "reserve" pendant only ever gets used when the primary fails. You need tension and movement to cause chafe this won't happen with a properly installed dual pendant system with one lazy and one active.

The Yale pendants are tough but I have seen LOTS of boats on the rocks over the years and lots of chafe. You are mooring in a very exposed and rough anchorage. Depending on one cleat, one pendant etc. is a choice you'll need to make. My mooring installer, who actually does this for a living, installs dual pendants. They have not lost a boat in years and service over 1k moorings.

Personally I lace & toggle my own pendants and then hand it to my mooring guy to install.
01-30-2010 11:41 AM
CascoBay Just went to Hamilton Marine and spoke with someone about the pendant situation.

They advised not to use 2 pendants due to chafe issues under the ball and the problem of the pendants wrapping themselves.

I understand there are solutions to these problems, but I trust their advice of a single 3/4" or 1" yale pendant, 20' in length. They flat out told me that with a Yale pendant there is really no need for redundancy of the lines.
01-26-2010 05:57 PM
CascoBay I can walk through the windshield but its just a pain to get to the bow. I just thought about the slime covered rope that I would be bringing everywhere if I left it hooked to the bow eye, perhaps I will just buy a 6' pickup bouy and moor as typically done.
01-26-2010 05:46 PM
sailortjk1 Is that your Boat?
No wonder...
yep, I agree. Pain in the ass, but I would think you would be have access to be able to walk through the wind shield.
01-26-2010 05:37 PM
sailortjk1
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Originally Posted by CascoBay View Post
my biggest problem is that I would need to bring the boat up to it, and climb up to the bow before I drifted out of reach from it.
This is not very difficult to do.
I single handed a lot on and off.
A little practice and you will be fine.
Don't think too much about it, try it a few times in a gentle breeze and I am sure you will get the hang of it real quick.
You will have to judge the wind speed etc, come in with the bow pointed right into it, stop the boat with the bow right on top of tye pick up stick, and walk forward; simple.
After a while you learn how long she will sit before getting blown off in different conditions.
Really, its very simple to do.
01-26-2010 05:24 PM
CascoBay The mooring pickup bouys are popular here as well, but my biggest problem is that I would need to bring the boat up to it, and climb up to the bow before I drifted out of reach from it.

I cant grab it in the cockpit and then bring it forward because I have a full canvas enclosure and its very tough to pass a line forward when I am alone.

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