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02-09-2010 03:18 PM
bmacfarquhar Well I tried to talk the seller down a bit and he told me he wont sell his boat to me and that I shouldn't contact him anymore which is weird but whatever some people get emotional...

So back to the drawing board I suppose I'd prefer a boat with a diesel engine and a wheel (though a tiller seems to be more seaworthy by most accounts).

Also maybe something a bit larger that Tartan was only the second boat I looked at anyway.
02-08-2010 06:56 PM
mitiempo I don't think a Tartan 30 cockpit is too large for the size of the boat, especially with the addition of the bridge deck. That was what I was thinking when I said it was drain time not volume. I do agree a cockpit volume can be too large a percentage of the boat's displacement in some cases, a problem that is worse on smaller boats.
02-08-2010 06:48 PM
sailingdog Actually, it is both the volume and the drain time. If the cockpit is sufficiently large, it could cause serious problems. There is a recommended maximum size for a cockpit on a bluewater boat as a percentage of the boat's volume, but I don't remember what the formula is.
02-08-2010 05:39 PM
mitiempo It's not so much the volume unless it's very large, but the drain time. I've read 30 seconds is about ideal. Plug the drains and fill it with a hose and time it to get an idea. If more drainage is needed, and I would guess yes, the easiest solution it to put a drain right through the transom. The Tartan has the well gainst the transom so it's pretty easy to install an extra drain. Only one side is needed as the main drains will handle what's left. With a flap over the outlet it shouldn't let water in.
02-08-2010 03:53 PM
baboon A bridgedeck build looks do-able on a T30. There are no lockers or other obstructions in front of the cockpit to get in the way on the starboard side galley model. The aft galley version has an icebox hatch in the area that might need to be sealed. Even a large bridgdeck would not reduce the total volume of the cockpit much so other mods may be needed, but a more experenced sailor than I could give you a better idea what total volume of open space is correct for a 30 foot boat.
02-08-2010 03:19 PM
sailingdog Yup... that was one project I did on my boat, since I couldn't convince the manufacturer to build the boat with one... It has worked out quite well.. .

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Originally Posted by bmacfarquhar View Post
Perhaps a project something like this:

Bridgedeck Installation | Adrift at Sea
02-08-2010 01:41 PM
bmacfarquhar Perhaps a project something like this:

Bridgedeck Installation | Adrift at Sea
02-08-2010 01:22 PM
bmacfarquhar It seems a bridge deck could be constructed from marine plywood - essentially a waterproof storage box at the front of the cockpit. The reduced volume might also negate the need for larger scuppers as there is less space to flood. Most of my sailing will be coastal but I dont want to leave the large cockpit unaddressed. (My rough idea is head down the east coast through Panama and then explore the North West coast of S America and on the way back the Sea of Cortez) The Tartan seems to have some good features for seaworthiness am reading Vigor's Offshore Seaworthy sailboat and it stacks up better than many other boats I'm looking at in the low budget end of the spectrum.

Anyone here tried making bridge decks? Would plywood, epoxy, maybe some glass at the seams or marine tex do the trick? Any ideas for a quick and dirty bridge deck much appreciated.
02-07-2010 01:36 PM
mitiempo For offshore most of the boats mentioned would need larger or more scuppers I would guess, as does mine. The liferaft could be installed in the well to reduce volume.
02-07-2010 01:29 PM
Plumbean
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Install larger scuppers, add bridgedeck and storage locker in the well to reduce volume? Fairly easy modifications.
Probably cheaper to buy a different boat -- might consider a Yankee 30. Very similar to the T30 but if memory serves me they have a bridge deck and are considered to be decent blue water boats. Not many of them on the East Coast though.
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