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03-19-2010 08:45 PM
blt2ski The sailing up to a buoy under main alone works very well as mentioned. My step dad and I used to use this technique when pulling up to the ball we had on Lk Washington. You can also take off from the buoy sort of in reverse too. But push the main to the side of the boat opposite you want the bow to take off in, this will push the bow to the opposite side, release the mooring pennant, sheet the main in and slowly take off. Raise Jib/mizzen or equal from that point on.

Marty
03-19-2010 06:06 PM
blackjenner
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Originally Posted by mackconsult View Post
For one don't just depend on your motor. A boat under sail is a much better way to do it. Come in under main and go bow to into the wind slowing down to catch the ball, then go drop the main.

This way you can let the wind take you bow out of head to wind sheet the main in and still sail out.
Great answer.
03-19-2010 05:54 PM
Stillraining
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Still, I am using max sail area, if I use 100% no roach, then I am at about 17.x-1 IIRC also. BUT, My point, one could use 22or 25-1 for this area no matter how you get it will stand. Be it 100% SA or using all you can get. I was doing 4 something knots the other day in 7 knots of wind. Will see how it goes here in about 45 min or so too.

Marty
Cool Im Golden then, I can put up 1100 sf....... Thanks Marty

For a big old tub I think she is going to do OK in the light stuff..we will see..Ted was a racer himself and some of his hulls showed it in his designs for that day and age anyway...mine got a little of it .....well sort of .

Two spinnakers should be fun if not........ya wana be my teacher..?..
03-19-2010 05:14 PM
mackconsult For one don't just depend on your motor. A boat under sail is a much better way to do it. Come in under main and go bow to into the wind slowing down to catch the ball, then go drop the main.

This way you can let the wind take you bow out of head to wind sheet the main in and still sail out.

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So we are on a boat that has the performance range mentioned, from a heavy full keel to something more surfy, like Marty mentions.

You are going to pick up a mooring buoy in this location in your nice stable boat. Your sails are down.

Somehow, you foul your prop good and you can't fix it.

You miss the mooring buoy.

You are as close to shore as we saw in the video and the conditions are as we saw in the video.

What do you do?
03-19-2010 05:11 PM
mackconsult Any experienced person who tows knows you don't go to a cleat. They probably had the tow system distributed amongst several points of the boat including the base of the mast.

I doubt that boat was aground. The beaches up there are very unforgiving and rocky. If he had been on the hard on that Lee shore it would not take to long before he started taking on water.

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
I could quite see, but does the CG/Tow boat have a protective grate on the back to protect the crew from a snapping tow line? That would suck to see a cleat screaming toward you at 90 knots.
03-19-2010 04:54 PM
blackjenner
Situational question then

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Originally Posted by blt2ski View Post
Still, I am using max sail area, if I use 100% no roach, then I am at about 17.x-1 IIRC also. BUT, My point, one could use 22or 25-1 for this area no matter how you get it will stand. Be it 100% SA or using all you can get. I was doing 4 something knots the other day in 7 knots of wind. Will see how it goes here in about 45 min or so too.

Marty
So we are on a boat that has the performance range mentioned, from a heavy full keel to something more surfy, like Marty mentions.

You are going to pick up a mooring buoy in this location in your nice stable boat. Your sails are down.

Somehow, you foul your prop good and you can't fix it.

You miss the mooring buoy.

You are as close to shore as we saw in the video and the conditions are as we saw in the video.

What do you do?
03-19-2010 04:42 PM
blt2ski Still, I am using max sail area, if I use 100% no roach, then I am at about 17.x-1 IIRC also. BUT, My point, one could use 22or 25-1 for this area no matter how you get it will stand. Be it 100% SA or using all you can get. I was doing 4 something knots the other day in 7 knots of wind. Will see how it goes here in about 45 min or so too.

Marty
03-19-2010 12:52 PM
Stillraining There is a nice picture of the area in question on the cover of the March issue of Northwest Yachting...Alki point right behing the boat.
03-19-2010 12:32 PM
Stillraining Marty your conversion had me scratching my head...So I had to re-look it up...I fogot about DV and multiplying by two thirds...

Im at 17.83 when I do that ...not as good..

You guys are just using 100% fore triangle for this right?...If I use my 135 I look better..
03-19-2010 09:14 AM
blt2ski Charlie,

That is not a bad ratio, about 21.x-1 sail area-disp. I'm 540 with 6500 lbs or about 24.5-1 upwind. currently 800# for down wind, with a small spin, 900# when I get a full sized one. Both of our boats have decent ratio's for around here with boats that are easily driven.

Marty
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