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04-04-2010 09:35 PM
JL
Quote:
Originally Posted by seahorse7 View Post
I like the Rocket alot, would love a test sail. I am in the Annapolis area.

The only thing is as I think I can a J80 for a fair amount less, plus the OD aspect. None the less the right deal I might go for the Rocket.

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04-04-2010 06:57 PM
seahorse7 I like the Rocket alot, would love a test sail. I am in the Annapolis area.

The only thing is, I think I can get a J80 for a fair amount less, plus the OD aspect. None the less the right deal I might go for the Rocket.
04-03-2010 10:19 PM
JL
Quote:
Originally Posted by seahorse7 View Post
Yes, I realize that is often the case. However, some race features are nice for family day sailing
1) open transom for kids to go in and out of water,
2) open/big cockpit for lounging
3) less sharp corners
4) I find cockpit 'seats' a hazard for small kids

the tenderness can be dealt with to some extent
and leading lines aft or not is always a choice depending on crew

Slugs vs bolt rope,
anchor location,
engine in vs out,
furling vs non - gotta choose one or the other

Anyways it would be for wed races, a couple longer ones and day sailing

I am finally accepting that I need something bigger/slower for cruising/overnighting.
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04-01-2010 11:54 AM
seahorse7
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
I'd point out that many of the things make it a good racing boat are things that make it poorly suited for use as a cruising boat, especially if you are short-handed.
Yes, I realize that is often the case. However, some race features are nice for family day sailing
1) open transom for kids to go in and out of water,
2) open/big cockpit for lounging
3) less sharp corners
4) I find cockpit 'seats' a hazard for small kids

the tenderness can be dealt with to some extent
and leading lines aft or not is always a choice depending on crew

Slugs vs bolt rope,
anchor location,
engine in vs out,
furling vs non - gotta choose one or the other

Anyways it would be for wed races, a couple longer ones and day sailing

I am finally accepting that I need something bigger/slower for cruising/overnighting.
04-01-2010 08:47 AM
sailingdog I'd point out that many of the things make it a good racing boat are things that make it poorly suited for use as a cruising boat, especially if you are short-handed.
04-01-2010 01:27 AM
seahorse7 yeah, I can see that being the case - the little I saw of the j80 in phrf action was that it was hard as heck in normal conditions in the Ches Bay for it to sail to its rating.

BUT, I think that was complicated by it sailing its own sprit race AND not going with 155.

I can handle a dubious rating, but I want a fun boat without any really bad quirks or tendencies. Don't mind the sit on deck and it can't be wilder than the Olson 30.
03-31-2010 03:06 PM
tommays Well

To keep the competitive in this area out of OD racing they had to do a LOT of battles with the PHRF board on both the 80 and 105
03-31-2010 10:50 AM
seahorse7 Old thread - but totally relevant question today.

j80s are:
- much cheaper now
- still have some one design
- can transport (Charleston Race Week looks fun)

Whats not to like?

Jeff? Your comments page one did not have much specifics, although most everything I have read from you is quite detailed on why you have views on particular boats so I like your opinions.

What is lacking? I thought the J80 from a design spec is one of the better J boats - light almost uldb, planeable etc. Less tubby bow section (more or less j27 hull)

I know that is not everyones thing and makes it more of a handful but whats not to like?

Sit on deck, big cockpit - good things for racing maybe not so good for cruising ..

Please provide more feedback.

I understand there have been a couple suspect keel separation and the need for a serious survey in this area.

Also anyone chime in on production run differences.

Thanks.
09-26-2001 08:57 PM
rbh1515
J/80 - Opinions Needed

John,
I looked at the Alerion--beautiful boat but there were a number of negatives: too much wood to take care of, no lifelines, and cost. Also, I hear they are fairly tender...but a beautiful boat.
J27-did not look at it.
Laser 28-know nothing about it, but I''m sure JeffH would love to sell you his.
Colgate-if you want a nice daysailer that''s low maintainance, fast, fun to sail, safe and affordable, I don''t think you can beat the Colgate. Only negatives on the Colgate: no ports or forward hatch (but that means there are fewer areas that can leak). I really like the solid rails along the cockpit on the Colgate and I like the cockpit better that the J80. Would you use the retracting bow sprit and assymetrical spinaker on the J80? I also like having a solid fiberglass hull as opposed to a cored hull.
Good luck with you choice.
Rob
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09-25-2001 12:11 PM
maxrudy
J/80 - Opinions Needed

Rob,

I totally agree with you on cockpit size. Most of the boats on my short list have relatively large ones:

New or Used:
Alerion Express 28 - It is very beautiful and very expensive classic-looking boat, the one boat on the list that my wife would love.
Colgate 26 - The price is reasonable and it looks good.
J/80 - Still top of my list except for the damned price.
Sonar 23 - I learned to sail in this boat, not sexy but it is a good boat and it is fun to sail.

Used (I found two through this message string):
J/27 - For my needs and price range, this is the only other J that fits the bill.
Laser 28 - From what I can tell this boat is very similar to the J/27.
Unknown - A fractional sloop of approximately 25 feet. The huge cockpit has wood seats and a wood floor. There seems to be room underneath only for storage. It is doubtful that they are still made. A marina near my house has two of them docked. But I haven''t been able to get an I.D. on them.

John
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