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06-06-2010 03:30 PM
hellosailor There actually is an art (and a learning curve) to graphic design and some special knowledge needed to meet postal regulations AND still make sure things like "this is the inside, this is the outside" all happen the right way. But in this day and age, budgets are tight and instead of paying a pro to design a mailing piece, folks just give it to whoever in the office is artsy and "good on the computer".
Not surprising that the USCG, who don't have enough budget to keep their boats fueled and deployed, would cut corners on their mailers. Blame this one on the cheapskates in Congress, and remind them that the USCG needs (deserves!) a higher budget.
06-05-2010 08:32 PM
sailor50 I got my annual Vessel Documentation Renewal today.

I remembered that the last few years it was the same procedure, sign off and fold if there were no changes. Well the sign off where my signature goes is on the OUTSIDE of the trifold mailer!

Do you want your signature outside where anyone can see it? I'm surprised that the Coasties aren't doing their part to protect identity theft, not that that is an aspect of their services, but I am sending my renewal, once again in an envelope, not their trifold.
05-12-2010 04:55 PM
stm I just went thru the process and it could not be easier. all the documents and instruction is on the CG site, they answer your inquiries quickly by e-mail or by phone. I prossessed the whole thing on line, paid with my credit card(faxed that in because it's not secure) and had my new documents in less than a week. Someone actually is working at the government. Total cost was about 100.00
05-12-2010 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by BarryL View Post

I bought a CG documented boat, and like Tommays wrote, it was very easy to change the documentation to me.

Also note that you don't need to have the boat documented. If you are a private owner (as opposed to commercial) and don't plan on leaving US waters I can't think of any reason to keep the documentation.

One benefit is that you don't have to display your state registration numbers, just the sticker. You also get to display a nifty documentation number below decks
05-11-2010 09:23 PM
njadventure Thanks....I'm in the same boat (ha ha). I just purchased a Tartan 33 from Annapolis and the previous owner had a loan out on her.

I appreciate the info!!!
05-11-2010 08:34 PM
tempest Bill,

That's exactly how I did it. I purchased the vessel in maryland, registered it in NJ, then began the change of documentation process with the CG.

I will try to pull out that paperwork and let you know what forms I used. It cost me $ 84 dollars as I recall.

I did have to contact the former owner and have his bank send me a notarized letter stating that his lien had been satisfied. His bank sent it in a day! There were specific guidelines from the GC on what information was required for that. USCG National Vessel Documentation Center, Forms Page

You need the tonnage form:
USCG Marine Safety Center (MSC)

you need form 1258 application for exchange

You need form 1340 Bill of sale...

You need to fill out their credit card form...if you are paying by cc.

I think this covers the major forms....they will contact you if they require any more information. I found them to be very helpful.

I've done this twice now. but the last time was 5 years ago....

Price is the same..!

Hope this helps....if I missed anything, someone will fill in the blanks.
05-11-2010 07:47 PM
njadventure Tempest- did you first transfer the title and register the boat in NJ and then file the forms with the USCG? Do you happen to recall what form you used?

04-05-2010 02:30 PM
tempest The process was pretty easy, and I hate paperwork.
I found them to be very helpful.

I wouldn't spend the money on a service, you still have to provide most of the information to the service, anyway.

Once it's done, it's done. All you have to do is sign a form each year and send it back, unless they've changed that recently.
04-05-2010 02:20 PM
sailingdog I would point out that some documentation service companies might well be worth using IF the boat was not documented at the time of purchase. Like title search companies in real estate, some of the documentation service companies will provide you with a list of liens, if any, on the boat's title and provide insurance in the case there are outstanding liens that were missed.

That said, if the boat is currently USCG documented, then getting the USCG documentation transferred is relatively painless and simple. However, be aware that you MUST BE A US CITIZEN to own a USCG documented boat.
04-05-2010 09:50 AM
BarryL Hello,

I bought a CG documented boat, and like Tommays wrote, it was very easy to change the documentation to me.

Also note that you don't need to have the boat documented. If you are a private owner (as opposed to commercial) and don't plan on leaving US waters I can't think of any reason to keep the documentation.

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