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05-10-2010 12:01 PM
nerys Throughull? ( btw is there a terminology faq around here?)

I know its water tight as I took it out of the water the end of spring last year. No leaks.

Yes I have a good dual filter mask I will be wearing. IN fact I am less worried about my lungs so much as worried about my eyes. I only have 1 so I protect it aggressively. I am going to design and build a "sealed" set of goggles to protect my eyes when I do this. Drr now that I think about it some nice large swimming goggles should fit the bill quite nicely. I have some old eye glasses that work "good enough" I will remove the arms and hot glue them into the swim goggles so I can be "airtight" so none of the debris gets to my eyes. Just hose down before I remove them.

Electric will be no problem. First thing I will do is ditch anything their and re run fresh new wire and LED everything. I don't do incans :-)

Just scored an awesome set of lifejackets in a nice "case" for on the boat for $25 on CL :-) also scored a Marine hand held radio for $30 a few months ago.

its definitely 70's era, PO said as much.

If Time permits I am down here today in EHC I plan to try and pull it out and get some pics of the rear of the boat.

the Tiller rudder is something I need to work on. I piloted the sailboat as the PO "towed" me with his power boat and there were a few times where we "stressed" the rudder and I heard cracking sounds. So I definitely want to take a look at that. Its removable so not too much of an issue I would think.

I have a tall ladder here. If the light is cooperative I hope to try to use the zoom to get a shot of the internal portion of the keep so I can see if there are bolt heads or if I am dealing with studs. I don't dare climb into it yet.

I want to get that keel off as soon as I can. the next month will be very slow. With the census work I want to put in as many hours as possible since its paying for all of this :-)

Denise I got another payment for you! maybe we can meet up tomorrow evening sometime?
05-10-2010 04:42 AM
SoulVoyage For some reason the first thing I thought of when I saw that boat was Capri...just a name that popped into my head. I think Capris were made by Catalina in the 70s...and that sure looks like a 70s boat.

Many many, different boats had that same hull shape...hard to tell apart,,,but my intuition is telling me capri 27...catalina 27??? mid-seventies vintage??

You'll have some work cut-out for you...but at $150 w/ good sails, that's a good deal.

Reminds me of my friend who bought a 1966 Plymouth Valiant for $150 and drove it across the country TWICE.

Check the shape of your throughhulls BEFORE you splash her!

Wear the best 2-canister organic vapor mask you can get when you start grinding and sanding that swing keel! You don't want to be breathing that caustic iron oxide dust.

Fix ,grind and paint the swing keel, check the throughhulls, redo some simple electrics for running lioghts and a coupla cabin lights, give it a nice cleaning, wouldn't worry about painting her yet, lash an anchor onto the pulpit....and splash her. Keep it simple. A simple cheap boat like that is great for learning on. You can redo the interior later as time permits. Just use the summer for sailiong and learning and have fun! good luck! Edit: check the rudder-stock too.
05-08-2010 09:06 AM
deniseO30 Chris, make a post on Boat purchase and Review maybe you will get more input. I can't determine what mfg it was I was wondering if it's a macgregor even.
05-07-2010 11:57 PM
nerys What interior? (I mean it there is none) thats going to be tougher. I am not yet ready to try climbing inside yet while on the trailer and I don't let my brother touch my camera's (the last one he dropped into the only damned puddle of water inside of 100ft of us) :-)

If I remember monday I am going down and I will pull it out to try and get some hull numbers etc.. and some rear pictures. I will see if I can get some interior shots at that time as well.

Don't mind my late replies I tend to be dependent on notifications and they do not seem to work reliably here IE I got no notice of your reply :-) so don't think I am ignoring you or anything :-)

Census work comes first since thats going to pay for all of this :-) hehe
05-06-2010 09:27 AM
deniseO30 Interior pics next! (remove the dead critters first)
05-06-2010 09:22 AM
nerys yeah I will start a new thread about the keel. I only thought hunter because it was sooo similar to that other boat that is a hunter on craigslist. it had 4 windows mine 3 but they looks like the same shape. Then again maybe thousands of boats have those shape windows :-)

I feared taking the pivot bolt out because then I would LOSE my pivot. ie the pivot would allow me to crank it one way then the other in a circle to loosen it. IF I remove the pivot now instead of moving in a circle the ENTIRE keel would want to move in the same direction together Up Down Forward Back ie would require far more force to move.

but now that I know I can remove the entire assembly its worth a shot to try removing the pivot bolt (I think it will unbolt without much fuss so drilling should not be needed THAT bolt of all things actually looks to be in pretty good shape.

Some torchwork and a big wrench should handle that.
05-06-2010 08:30 AM
deniseO30 Hey Chris! is that a big pivot bolt going through the keel? I'd say that's the key to getting it loose. drill it out!

You may want to move your discussion over to one of the other topic forums here Chris you may get more response.

So where is the boat actually? Oh.. i don't think it's a hunter. but I don't really know.
05-05-2010 06:12 PM
nerys Hmmm seems you can not edit remove or add images to an existing post. Must make a brand new post. Here is a higher rest image of the boat.

check the link in previous post for some higher res and more numerous images.
05-05-2010 06:09 PM
nerys Alrighty. Pictures are simmering will be online in 30 seconds or so.

My Sailboat

:-)
05-05-2010 01:51 PM
nerys Well Never. That is where the boat stays when on land. I have no place to put something that big at home :-) hehehe

SO when its not in the water that is where it will be.

Yes its your basic twin axle trailer frame with a wooden super structure to hold the boat (I will get pics online tonight after work)

IT DID survive the entire winter and 60 miles on the highway at 50mph to get it home but I REALLY do not trust it. I am going to greatly strengthen it and lower it about 6-7 inches.

The launching trouble we have is that the trailer obviously must be SUBMERGED under the boat in order to load it or unload it.

alas the first 2 ramps we tried the ramp ENDED before the trailer was deep enough (IE disconnecting the trailer and feeding a line out would not have worked because we reached the END of the ramp IE drop of or mudd after that) the third ramp at high tide was enough :-) There is at least an 8" gap between the keel and the frame all the way back so lowering it will greatly increase the ramp availability for me :-)

basically am going to reinforce the wood with a sandwich but make the new wood supports 6-7 inches SHORTER so they won't go all the way up to the longerons.

Once I put the boat in the water right on the spot we will pop off the longerons cut off the tops of the old wood supports to be even with the newly added supports and then reinstall the longerons. Done.

Right now there are 2 6-8 inch wide 2" planks of wood for the super structure verticals. They sit on top of the metal trailer frame and are held on by some wimpy to me angle iron and brackets. I added some more before loading the boat because i just did not trust them.

I am going to add TWO MORE layers of wood but extend them down BELOW the trailer frame and sandwich the frame in an enclosure of wood structure. This will be far far more rigid and supportive.

I will only extend them to the desired cut off distance.

Once we unload the boat pop off the lognerons lop off the excess from the original wood so all 4 layers are level and then reattach longerons.

I also do not like the links between verticals. Just does not seem well thought out to me. I will probably switch to stainless cable of beefy grade with turn buckles to tighten and tension it or figure out a better way to attach the wood.

Here is a quickie drawing of what it is and what I will do to it.

suggestions? good or is there a even stronger method?

I am thinking of strapping some WOOD to the bottom of the sail boat with some ratchet straps and LEAVING them on the boat when I launch it and leave them submerged for a few days.

Take the boat out let them dry again still attached to the hull Then seal them and VICE THEM till dry. Now I will have "formed" runners to the right shape of the hull. Should distribute the load forces much better.
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