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08-27-2011 04:47 PM
hellosailor "You can use Form DS-82 to renew your passport book at the same time that your apply for your passport card."
Actually, that's a bit wrong. If you attempt to "renew" a US passport before the expiration date, you will find that it is cancelled and replaced by a new passport good for ten more years. If you had a year left on your old passport? It is lost. You do not get ten more years, you lose any remaining time.
A bit greedy or simply unthoughtful on the part of the DOS, who tell us to renew early in order to avoid the waits (sometimes 3-4 months) when they get busy.
Right now the renewal time is about one month, and in typical efficient government fashion, your new passport, passport card, and returned old passport will be sent back to you in three separate mailings.

In Daffy Duck's famous words, "What a Maroon! What a Maroon!"
08-26-2011 04:59 PM
pinayreefer While the price difference is significant, passport - $135; card - $55
the restrictions associated with the card make it seem unwise to pursue that course. For sure you can go nearly anywhere with the passport but a card is not so flexible. Not sure why, as the same form is required for both.
08-26-2011 12:28 PM
MSN2Travelers
Passport or Card ...

It was briefly touched upon by freesail ... should you have to return to the US by air for any reason, you will be out of luck.

I would hate to be stuck outside the US with a medical problem and not be able to fly home for treatment.
08-26-2011 12:03 PM
davidstuart
Passport v Passport

Never sail anywhere without a Passport.
Stuart Gough
Passport Yachts Europe
05-19-2010 09:55 AM
FSMike
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Originally Posted by Freesail99 View Post
-- Seems like a good idea for something to be used in places where nothing was required before.
LOL. God forbid that the government should allow some aspect of our lives to be untouched by paperwork.


cl -
Have a great time in the Bahamas if that's where you're heading. I'm jealous.
05-19-2010 09:42 AM
Freesail99 FSMike

I have to agree with you. Seems like a good idea for something to be used in places where nothing was required before.
05-19-2010 09:34 AM
FSMike
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Originally Posted by Freesail99 View Post
I made a call about wording on the web site and I was told rather bluntly that you had to show the Passport Card to leave the USA.... Meaning you had to use the card in order to leave the country
Freesail99 -
I have no doubt someone told you that, the only problem is that most civil servants are not used to the concept of travel by private yacht. This whole Passport Card bit was started by the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI). In researching this I can find nothing written down referring to using the PassCard to depart the USA by private yacht. Historically the US has not required private yachts leaving the US to do anything (when owned and crewed by US citizens), and I cannot find where that has changed. WHTI's main purpose is to address security as regards people arriving in the USA,not departing.
As best I can determine the Passport Card can be used instead of a Passport for any situation involving a private yacht in which a Passport would be required in the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean nations, including the Bahamas (which technically are not in the Caribbean).
05-18-2010 11:34 PM
Freesail99
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Freesail99 -
What I gather from your post is that the Passport Card can be used to enter the United States. The OP's question was about entering other countries, which in most cases I believe require actual passports. The Bahamas have traditionally been an exception to that, having in the past only required some ID like a valid driver's license or something similar to prove you are from the USA. That may have changed since you now can't reenter the States from the Bahamas without a Passport or, apparently, at least a Passport Card.
I made a call about wording on the web site and I was told rather bluntly that you had to show the Passport Card to leave the USA.... Meaning you had to use the card in order to leave the country and you need to use it to enter the country from the area listed and only those countries.

You do need a passport or passport card in the Bahamas. A driver's license is not longer valet ID.

"I read the Western Hemisphere Initiative and took from it that all Caribbean countries accept the passport card if you arrive by sea. I know it works on a cruise ship, how bout a private cruiser? Anyone know for sure?"

I don't know for sure. I assume that you can. I would call to confirm.
05-17-2010 07:26 AM
CubaLibre Appreciate both Freessail99 and FSMike's posts. I read the DOS website article above but wanted confirmation from one of you seasoned skippers if, in fact, a passport card was all that was needed. I read the Western Hemisphere Initiative and took from it that all Caribbean countries accept the passport card if you arrive by sea. I know it works on a cruise ship, how bout a private cruiser? Anyone know for sure?
05-17-2010 12:22 AM
FSMike Freesail99 -
What I gather from your post is that the Passport Card can be used to enter the United States. The OP's question was about entering other countries, which in most cases I believe require actual passports. The Bahamas have traditionally been an exception to that, having in the past only required some ID like a valid driver's license or something similar to prove you are from the USA. That may have changed since you now can't reenter the States from the Bahamas without a Passport or, apparently, at least a Passport Card.
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